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Old Aug 05, 2004, 04:48 PM
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Twin Wattage f-86 saber in the works

Well it sounds expensive but i am going to combine two jets into one
aircraft.
The first idea is to build a straight center wing to connect them both
and have outboard ailerons only.
Power will be two astro fan packages with two 3s2p lipo packs.
I have done this with two GWS zeros with great results.(tractor prop powered).
The second idea came from a flying buddy of mine.
He suggested not seperating the fusalages as this may be to
"Draggy" His idea is to sand the inboard surfaces of the fuses
and combine them into one fusalage then mount this on a raptor
wing available seperatly from a known vendor. Still using the astro
fans and lipo packs for power.

I received the two kits last night at $49.00 EACH..almost 2 for 1
pricewise and did a mockup on the bench.
Both versions seem viable with option one being the easy version.

20 hecell round cells would be to heavy and either a heafty two
handed toss or bungi will be the order of the day.

Any comments, suggestions, tips etc. would be great.
I hope to have the build pics. going very soon. Thanks Pete
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 05:00 PM
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Pete

Did you fly a twin zero at RSA ?
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 05:24 PM
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Hey hall yes its me!
Any ideas on the tf-86 Pete
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 07:14 PM
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Using 3s2p 2100 TP ?

where you been ?
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 07:33 PM
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Pete,

I like your original idea of going with a straight center wing to connect the two fuses. You could make it look similar to the twin P-51 they made(P-82). This way you keep a semi-scale looking jet. Might be interesting.
Here's a pic...
http://www.studenten.net/customasp/a...=0&pte_id=2740
By eliminating the stock horizontal stab & creating a joining piece you might eliminate some of the issues with the stock setup also.


Not too sure about combining the two fuses & using the Raptor wing. Might look a bit Frankensteinish. But, to each their own. Just my 2 cents.

-Mark
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 07:37 PM
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Yup...changed over to 3s2p t.p. 2100s and 3s2p 1200 t.p. lipos for about
6 weeks now.....never looked back.
Have a boat load of nim. and nicads now. Pete
P.S. I have been getting with the program.......catch the wave hehehehe
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 07:42 PM
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i want the new narrow tanics 2450mah that can draw
25 amps continous. When will they have it in stocks?
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 07:48 PM
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 07:54 PM
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Thanks racebelly for your constructive feedback.
By conecting the two fusalages i will also have to increase the wing area
and with a tapered wing, although i have 2 sets it will not be easy.
But i can just run one set of enlarged tail feathers...pro..con..
Being a gemini i just have to do it somehow.
I do live near nasa ames research center but cant even get near their
wind tunnel to do some testing L.O.L.
On plan B i would just have to make a plywood template of the wing root
cross section and then would have something to either make constant chord
ribs from or somthing to hotwire or block sand down to when constructing
the new center wing. Would depron be of use here with c.f. spars going into
both ships? Thanks Pete
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 07:55 PM
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You should have enough power, going to be a piece of cake
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Old Aug 05, 2004, 08:01 PM
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Well o.k. then honey pass me the bone saw! Thanks for your support guys
and gals. Pete
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Old Aug 08, 2004, 11:52 PM
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I can't visualize what your are trying to do. Would there be two complete fuses? Any sketches?

Either way, do it!


Justin
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Old Aug 09, 2004, 04:21 AM
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So who is going to do the twin Mig ? Arf
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Old Aug 09, 2004, 07:24 AM
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Odd idea but still cool. I would be interested to see the end resalt good luck.
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Old Aug 09, 2004, 10:05 PM
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Justin more data will be forthcoming as i wanted to collect as
much data as possible before doing anything.
I was going to try the mig first but that high t-tail looked
troublesome as far as a twin ship. Thanks for all of the support
from around the world pilots.
Pete
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