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Old Jul 26, 2004, 11:11 PM
Dean
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rec.models.rc.land (RMRL) FAQ Repost

This is the most recent I found on google groups, so here goes: I did make a
single change, regarding my archive at ripperd.com of the binaries group. I no
longer use ripperd2.dhs.org, and it contains a placeholder forwarder so the FAQ
needs to get updated in this respect. I updated the last-modifed date also.

=========BEGIN FAQ====================================

Archive-Name: models/rc-cars/newbie-guide
Posting-Frequency: monthly
Last-Modified: 26 July, 2004
Disclaimer: Approval for *.answers is based on form, not content.
The most recent version of this FAQ list is posted by the author monthly to
the Usenet groups <news:rec.models.rc.land>,
<news:uk.rec.models.radio-control.land>, <news:rec.answers>, and
<news:news.answers>.
Several servers around the World Wide Web, NONE of which are maintained by
this author, store a copy of this document. It can be obtained by anonymous
ftp from <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/models/rc-cars/newbie-guide>; or by
e-mail: <mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu>, the body of the mail must contain the
command "send /pub/faqs/models/rc-cars/newbie-guide" without the quotes. A
relatively decent HTMLized version of this document can be found at
<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/models/rc-cars/newbie-guide/preamble.html>. For a
complete list of world wide mirrors, see the document "Introduction to the
*.answers newsgroups", which is posted frequently to <news:news.answers>; or
retrieve it through e-mail by sending <mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu>, with the
command "send /pub/faqs/news-answers/introduction" without the quotes.
The official home of this document is maintained by the author at
http://www.wildhobbies.com/newbie-guide.html.
------------------------------
TABLE OF CONTENTS
0. Preliminaries and Introductions
0.1. What is this?
0.2. What other FAQs are there?
0.3. What will you NOT find here?
0.4. Usenet
0.4.1. NETiquette
0.4.2. Posting binary attachments
0.4.3. Posting sales / auctions
1. What car should I get first?
2. What radio should I get first?
3. What motor should I get first?
4. What other stuff will I need?
5. What else do I need to know?
5.1. Ready to Run - RTR
5.2. The controlling bodies of R/C racing
6. What about batteries?
6.1. Battery care
7. What are the different types of cars?
8. What are the different kinds of radios?
8.1. What is all this stuff on the radio?
8.2. Radio interference
8.3. Using a 4-channel radio with a car
8.4. Too much Information on radios
9. What about motors and stuff?
9.1. How to speed up electric motors?
9.2. Brushless motors
9.3. Speed controllers
9.4. Gear ratios
10. Painting
11. Some useful links
12. Links to links to manufacturers and stores
13. Legal frequency - channel tables
14. Document Changes
15. Legal jargon
------------------------------
0. Preliminaries and Introductions
I am Kerry Garrison and I have just taken over the maintenance of this
document. This is no small task considering what has to be done every month
to keep it posted to all the right groups. Please bear with me as I get the
hang of this. Who am I? I am the publisher of WildHobbies.com
(http://www.wildhobbies.com) which is an online magazine. A discussion forum
on WildHobbies exists to discuss changes, additions, and deletions to this
document.
0.1. What is this?
Answers to some common questions and some suggestions for people wishing to
join, or just starting out in, the remote controlled (R/C) cars hobby.
Contains information useful for beginners, as well as directions where to
get additional information.
It is an attempt at collecting / organizing / sharing some of the
information (dare I say 'wisdom'?) that I have managed to acquire since I
got involved in this hobby. At the time I took over maintaining this
document, I had been involved in the hobby for several years, race on a
regular basis in both electric and nitro and off-road and on-road. I have
also been publishing WildHobbies.com online magazine for several years. This
is not meaning I am the end-all beat-all expert and I often defer questions
to people much more knowledgeable than myself.
0.2. What other FAQs are there?
First off, let me stress that in no way do I intend for this document to
replace or supercede any other FAQ on this or similar subject found anywhere
else. Different people have different experiences / opinions, and those are
generally relayed through their FAQs. I recommend that you have a look at
all that you can find, in order to gain as much practical information as
possible.
Further, almost every single manufacturer that has a web site has some type
of FAQ or some variant of "Getting Started in R/C" type of document; those
are just way too numerous to list, and, unlike me, they have an actual
advertising budget. Therefore I will not list any of those here - see the
section "Links to links to manufacturers and stores", below.
There are, however, a few FAQs maintained by individuals, such as myself,
whom I would consider more 'my competition'; although AFAIK mine is the only
one posted to Usenet. Here are the ones I have been able to find so far:
FAQ for R/C electric off-road racing
<http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2314/rc-faq.html>
The rec.models.rc.land Frequently Asked Questions archive
<http://burnt-kat.streetracing.org/rcfaq.html>
0.3. What will you NOT find here?
The original author of this document has never touched a gas R/C car and
thus currently contains no information specific that nitro at this time. As
the new author, I will begin to include relevant information.
I do not want to have specific car reviews and comparisons. Further, I do
not intend to address questions of the type 'car A vs. car B, which is
better?' A better question would perhaps be 'car A vs. car B, which is more
popular?', because it is often a popularity contest! But the answer to this
you will not find here either, since within a year BOTH car A and car B will
be replaced by something new and more popular.
See "What car should I get first?", below, where to get this information.
0.4. Usenet
When I got involved in this hobby, one of the first places that I went to
was the Usenet. Surely, no surprise, there is a newsgroup dedicated to this
hobby. If your computer is set up properly, then you should be able to go to
the URL <news:rec.models.rc.land> and just start reading. Alternatively, you
could go to <http://groups.google.com/groups?group=rec.models.rc.land>; this
place has an archive of older postings, much older than what your news
server probably carries, so it is an excellent resource for searching past
information.
If you got this document through means other than Usenet, and want to find
out more about it, a good place to start is
<http://www.geocities.com/nnqweb/>.
There are several R/C Usenet groups of similar interest; the descriptions
are not mine, they are taken directly from the group's charter (bad
formatting and spelling error included):
<news:rec.models.rc.air> RC controlled air models.
<news:rec.models.rc.helicopter> Model helicopter flying, construction, and
tips.
<news:rec.models.rc.land> RC controlled land models.
<news:rec.models.rc.misc> RC controlled miscellaneous items.
<news:rec.models.rc.soaring> Building and flying radio controlled gliders.
<news:rec.models.rc.water> RC controlled water models.
<news:alt.binaries.radio-control> Newsgroup for radio contol related
binaries (software and pictures).

Most countries have a Usenet hierarchy of their own. There might be a group
specifically for local discussions. For example, United Kingdom has the
following groups:
<news:uk.rec.models.radio-control.air> UK Radio Control Aero Modelling
<news:uk.rec.models.radio-control.land> UK Radio Control Cars, Buggies,
Trucks

Before you start posting to any of these groups, there are some things you
should be aware of:
0.4.1. NETiquette
There are certain assumed rules when posting to Usenet. If you break these
rules, you will be mercilessly ostracized by the rest of the group. If you
are not familiar with this 'code of conduct' there are numerous articles on
the subject. One good one is at <http://www.lynnsland.com/Netiquette/>; a
second source of numerous articles is at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/>.
If you still have questions or doubts, then the appropriate place to ask is
in <news:news.newusers.questions>.
The denizens of rmrl are willing to tolerate off-topic posts, as long as
they are marked with "[OT]" in the Subject. Every so often someone suggests
(mostly as a joke) starting a rec.models.rc.land.ot group. If you don't like
them, create a filter; if you do post them, please mark them in the Subject!
The sad truth is that a lot of people have problems expressing themselves
through the written word; I myself am certainly no expert. Further, a lot of
people easily take offence. Please keep both of these points in mind when
you are reading or writing posts, and take everything with a 'grain of
salt'.
There are a lot of acronyms that are used throughout the Internet,
especially on Usenet. Try here for a little help:
<http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/>.
0.4.2. Posting binary attachments
No! I will attempt to justify this, but make no mistake; the answer is a
definite no!
Binary attachments are normally restricted to the Usenet hierarchy
alt.binary.*. This is done so that people who do not wish to receive binary
attachments can easily avoid them. These people often include system
administrators with limited disk space, and users with a slow Internet
connection such as a dial up modem. If people post binary attachments in a
non-binary group, they will quickly get alienated by that group. If a lot of
people post binary attachments to a non-binary group, then system
administrators will simply stop carrying that group and the group will die.
If you insist on distributing binaries, the correct procedure is to find
diskspace someplace on the Internet - there are plenty of sites that offer
this sort of a service for free - and then post a link with an appropriate
description to rmrl. Alternatively, you could post the binary to
<news:alt.binaries.radio-control>; just keep in mind that most servers set a
very low expiration time for all binary groups, usually on the magnitude of
a few days. This means that very few people will get to see your post. A
private archive of binary postings can be found at
<http://www.ripperd.com/alt.binaries.radio-control/>.
HTML messages (almost) fall in the same category, especially if you insert
pictures into your messages. Some systems automatically imbed pictures into
the signature for each post! I know that the actual method of transmitting
the pictures in this case is different from attaching binaries to a message,
and I do not want to discuss that here. Let's just say that a significant
portion of Usenet considers HTML messages on Usenet impolite and ignorant.
0.4.3. Posting sales / auctions
This is one of those gray areas. If you cross-post an auction or a sale to
the entire rmr* hierarchy, then most people will probably consider that spam
and will get upset at you. If you must post a sale or an auction, then post
only to one or two relevant groups, and make sure that in the subject of
your message you include an unmistakable description of what the message is.
For example, the subject "rad buggy" would not be acceptable, but "[eBay]
XXX buggy with extras" is fine. You could also use the acronyms "[FA]" to
indicate 'for auction' and "[FS]" to indicate 'for sale'; please do not
confuse these two. People also use "[WTB]" for 'Want To Buy'. Not everyone
is interested in buying stuff, and yes, people will use these indicators to
make up filters. Please respect that!
------------------------------
1. What car should I get first?
There are several questions that most beginners will have, that are somewhat
difficult to answer. This is usually the first one! In order to give any
kind of a meaningful answer, several things must be known first. These
include, but are not limited to:
- how much money do you have / want to spend?
- where do you mostly intend to drive this car (street / off-road)?
- do you intend to race in sponsored races?
- do you want to build your car or not (kit / RTR)?
- do you want a car to 'learn on and graduate from', or a car that you will
'grow into'?

There are numerous answers to each of these points, and, therefore, there
are numerous answers to this question.
[Kerry]
As you will see, this is no easy question and different people will have
different answers. My first good R/C car was an HPI RS4 Pro2. I began racing
in novice stock classes and when I had the driving down pretty good I wanted
a newer car. From there I picked up an Associated TC3 Team Kit. I have been
racing the TC3 for almost two years now. Since then I have ran tons of cars
for reviews and my opinion is that you really need to look at what you will
be doing with the vehicle. There is a reason why the Associated T3 is one of
the best selling vehicles. You can run it on-road, off-road, race with it,
get good air with it, and it is easy to maintain. Would I recommend against
nitro for beginners? Even a year ago I would have said "no". These days,
with a lot of excellent Nitro-based Ready-to-Run vehicles, I don't say "no"
so easily. If you want the thrill of Nitro, and are willing to put up with a
little more maintenance and the noise of a nitro motor, then there is no
reason not to start off with a good nitro RTR vehicle.

[SiKing]
Still, in an attempt to give some sort of an answer, I can offer a personal
experience: the car that I myself bought first and some of the reasons for
my decision. Personally, I did not want to spend a lot of money, but I
normally do try to balance quality and quantity. I knew that I was mostly
going to race my car in my parking lot, which is quite beaten up, but I also
wanted to enter into some of the local races, most of which were clean
parking lot races. I wanted something that is going to be fairly easy to
maintain and build, and also get spare parts for. Initially I was
considering the HPI RS4 Pro2. But I thought this kit is somewhat expensive
as it needed a lot of additional stuff; also this car would have problems
with clearance on my broken up parking lot. I eventually ended up with the
HPI RS4 Rally. I had every intention of learning on this car, and then
moving up to something 'hot'. Eventually my interests changed though, and
now I drive mostly off-road cars. Looking back on it now, I still feel this
was a good decision on my part. The Pro2 would have been a bad purchase for
me. I have to stress the "for me" part in that last sentence; I know a whole
bunch of people who own the Pro2 and are very happy with it.
If you are still unsure, which you probably are, then read the rest of this
document, read some magazines, get informed. Here are several places that
you want to check:
- Past posts to rmrl
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_u...as_usubject=re
view>.
- Post a message yourself to the group, get the opinions of several people.
With your inquiry, try to be as specific as possible with what you want.
- Go to your local hobby store (LHS) and a local track (find one from your
LHS), and talk to people there. See if someone will let you drive their car
(they probably will not, but you can still ask).
- Check the "Radio Control Car Action" magazine
<http://www.rccaraction.com/>; check for back issues at your local library
or from your friends online.
------------------------------
2. What radio should I get first?
To initially get into the hobby, you will probably have to purchase
everything since you are starting from nothing. This fact will probably
limit your budget. Many stores offer some sort of a combo deal, which
contains a whole bunch (or all) of the stuff you will need, as a package
deal. This is normally, due to financial constraints, the best option for
you. In all likelihood, the radio that comes with a combo will be a low end,
2-channel, AM, pistol grip radio. The radio will have very few features,
which is probably good, as it will not overwhelm a new user. The minimum
Old Jul 27, 2004, 01:11 AM
mike
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Re: rec.models.rc.land (RMRL) FAQ Repost

Thanks for the effort, a rerally useful archive!


"Dean" <look@sig> wrote in message
news:lvcbg0dvmtflslcc69e80t950evvn49aus@4ax.com...
> This is the most recent I found on google groups, so here goes: I did

make a
> single change, regarding my archive at ripperd.com of the binaries group.

I no
> longer use ripperd2.dhs.org, and it contains a placeholder forwarder so

the FAQ
> needs to get updated in this respect. I updated the last-modifed date

also.
>
> =========BEGIN FAQ====================================
>
> Archive-Name: models/rc-cars/newbie-guide
> Posting-Frequency: monthly
> Last-Modified: 26 July, 2004
> Disclaimer: Approval for *.answers is based on form, not content.
> The most recent version of this FAQ list is posted by the author monthly

to
> the Usenet groups <news:rec.models.rc.land>,
> <news:uk.rec.models.radio-control.land>, <news:rec.answers>, and
> <news:news.answers>.
> Several servers around the World Wide Web, NONE of which are maintained by
> this author, store a copy of this document. It can be obtained by

anonymous
> ftp from <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/models/rc-cars/newbie-guide>; or by
> e-mail: <mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu>, the body of the mail must contain the
> command "send /pub/faqs/models/rc-cars/newbie-guide" without the quotes. A
> relatively decent HTMLized version of this document can be found at
> <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/models/rc-cars/newbie-guide/preamble.html>. For

a
> complete list of world wide mirrors, see the document "Introduction to the
> *.answers newsgroups", which is posted frequently to <news:news.answers>;

or
> retrieve it through e-mail by sending <mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu>, with the
> command "send /pub/faqs/news-answers/introduction" without the quotes.
> The official home of this document is maintained by the author at
> http://www.wildhobbies.com/newbie-guide.html.
> ------------------------------
> TABLE OF CONTENTS
> 0. Preliminaries and Introductions
> 0.1. What is this?
> 0.2. What other FAQs are there?
> 0.3. What will you NOT find here?
> 0.4. Usenet
> 0.4.1. NETiquette
> 0.4.2. Posting binary attachments
> 0.4.3. Posting sales / auctions
> 1. What car should I get first?
> 2. What radio should I get first?
> 3. What motor should I get first?
> 4. What other stuff will I need?
> 5. What else do I need to know?
> 5.1. Ready to Run - RTR
> 5.2. The controlling bodies of R/C racing
> 6. What about batteries?
> 6.1. Battery care
> 7. What are the different types of cars?
> 8. What are the different kinds of radios?
> 8.1. What is all this stuff on the radio?
> 8.2. Radio interference
> 8.3. Using a 4-channel radio with a car
> 8.4. Too much Information on radios
> 9. What about motors and stuff?
> 9.1. How to speed up electric motors?
> 9.2. Brushless motors
> 9.3. Speed controllers
> 9.4. Gear ratios
> 10. Painting
> 11. Some useful links
> 12. Links to links to manufacturers and stores
> 13. Legal frequency - channel tables
> 14. Document Changes
> 15. Legal jargon
> ------------------------------
> 0. Preliminaries and Introductions
> I am Kerry Garrison and I have just taken over the maintenance of this
> document. This is no small task considering what has to be done every

month
> to keep it posted to all the right groups. Please bear with me as I get

the
> hang of this. Who am I? I am the publisher of WildHobbies.com
> (http://www.wildhobbies.com) which is an online magazine. A discussion

forum
> on WildHobbies exists to discuss changes, additions, and deletions to this
> document.
> 0.1. What is this?
> Answers to some common questions and some suggestions for people wishing

to
> join, or just starting out in, the remote controlled (R/C) cars hobby.
> Contains information useful for beginners, as well as directions where to
> get additional information.
> It is an attempt at collecting / organizing / sharing some of the
> information (dare I say 'wisdom'?) that I have managed to acquire since I
> got involved in this hobby. At the time I took over maintaining this
> document, I had been involved in the hobby for several years, race on a
> regular basis in both electric and nitro and off-road and on-road. I have
> also been publishing WildHobbies.com online magazine for several years.

This
> is not meaning I am the end-all beat-all expert and I often defer

questions
> to people much more knowledgeable than myself.
> 0.2. What other FAQs are there?
> First off, let me stress that in no way do I intend for this document to
> replace or supercede any other FAQ on this or similar subject found

anywhere
> else. Different people have different experiences / opinions, and those

are
> generally relayed through their FAQs. I recommend that you have a look at
> all that you can find, in order to gain as much practical information as
> possible.
> Further, almost every single manufacturer that has a web site has some

type
> of FAQ or some variant of "Getting Started in R/C" type of document; those
> are just way too numerous to list, and, unlike me, they have an actual
> advertising budget. Therefore I will not list any of those here - see the
> section "Links to links to manufacturers and stores", below.
> There are, however, a few FAQs maintained by individuals, such as myself,
> whom I would consider more 'my competition'; although AFAIK mine is the

only
> one posted to Usenet. Here are the ones I have been able to find so far:
> FAQ for R/C electric off-road racing
> <http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2314/rc-faq.html>
> The rec.models.rc.land Frequently Asked Questions archive
> <http://burnt-kat.streetracing.org/rcfaq.html>
> 0.3. What will you NOT find here?
> The original author of this document has never touched a gas R/C car and
> thus currently contains no information specific that nitro at this time.

As
> the new author, I will begin to include relevant information.
> I do not want to have specific car reviews and comparisons. Further, I do
> not intend to address questions of the type 'car A vs. car B, which is
> better?' A better question would perhaps be 'car A vs. car B, which is

more
> popular?', because it is often a popularity contest! But the answer to

this
> you will not find here either, since within a year BOTH car A and car B

will
> be replaced by something new and more popular.
> See "What car should I get first?", below, where to get this information.
> 0.4. Usenet
> When I got involved in this hobby, one of the first places that I went to
> was the Usenet. Surely, no surprise, there is a newsgroup dedicated to

this
> hobby. If your computer is set up properly, then you should be able to go

to
> the URL <news:rec.models.rc.land> and just start reading. Alternatively,

you
> could go to <http://groups.google.com/groups?group=rec.models.rc.land>;

this
> place has an archive of older postings, much older than what your news
> server probably carries, so it is an excellent resource for searching past
> information.
> If you got this document through means other than Usenet, and want to find
> out more about it, a good place to start is
> <http://www.geocities.com/nnqweb/>.
> There are several R/C Usenet groups of similar interest; the descriptions
> are not mine, they are taken directly from the group's charter (bad
> formatting and spelling error included):
> <news:rec.models.rc.air> RC controlled air models.
> <news:rec.models.rc.helicopter> Model helicopter flying, construction, and
> tips.
> <news:rec.models.rc.land> RC controlled land models.
> <news:rec.models.rc.misc> RC controlled miscellaneous items.
> <news:rec.models.rc.soaring> Building and flying radio controlled gliders.
> <news:rec.models.rc.water> RC controlled water models.
> <news:alt.binaries.radio-control> Newsgroup for radio contol related
> binaries (software and pictures).
>
> Most countries have a Usenet hierarchy of their own. There might be a

group
> specifically for local discussions. For example, United Kingdom has the
> following groups:
> <news:uk.rec.models.radio-control.air> UK Radio Control Aero Modelling
> <news:uk.rec.models.radio-control.land> UK Radio Control Cars, Buggies,
> Trucks
>
> Before you start posting to any of these groups, there are some things you
> should be aware of:
> 0.4.1. NETiquette
> There are certain assumed rules when posting to Usenet. If you break these
> rules, you will be mercilessly ostracized by the rest of the group. If you
> are not familiar with this 'code of conduct' there are numerous articles

on
> the subject. One good one is at <http://www.lynnsland.com/Netiquette/>; a
> second source of numerous articles is at

<http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/>.
> If you still have questions or doubts, then the appropriate place to ask

is
> in <news:news.newusers.questions>.
> The denizens of rmrl are willing to tolerate off-topic posts, as long as
> they are marked with "[OT]" in the Subject. Every so often someone

suggests
> (mostly as a joke) starting a rec.models.rc.land.ot group. If you don't

like
> them, create a filter; if you do post them, please mark them in the

Subject!
> The sad truth is that a lot of people have problems expressing themselves
> through the written word; I myself am certainly no expert. Further, a lot

of
> people easily take offence. Please keep both of these points in mind when
> you are reading or writing posts, and take everything with a 'grain of
> salt'.
> There are a lot of acronyms that are used throughout the Internet,
> especially on Usenet. Try here for a little help:
> <http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/>.
> 0.4.2. Posting binary attachments
> No! I will attempt to justify this, but make no mistake; the answer is a
> definite no!
> Binary attachments are normally restricted to the Usenet hierarchy
> alt.binary.*. This is done so that people who do not wish to receive

binary
> attachments can easily avoid them. These people often include system
> administrators with limited disk space, and users with a slow Internet
> connection such as a dial up modem. If people post binary attachments in a
> non-binary group, they will quickly get alienated by that group. If a lot

of
> people post binary attachments to a non-binary group, then system
> administrators will simply stop carrying that group and the group will

die.
> If you insist on distributing binaries, the correct procedure is to find
> diskspace someplace on the Internet - there are plenty of sites that offer
> this sort of a service for free - and then post a link with an appropriate
> description to rmrl. Alternatively, you could post the binary to
> <news:alt.binaries.radio-control>; just keep in mind that most servers set

a
> very low expiration time for all binary groups, usually on the magnitude

of
> a few days. This means that very few people will get to see your post. A
> private archive of binary postings can be found at
> <http://www.ripperd.com/alt.binaries.radio-control/>.
> HTML messages (almost) fall in the same category, especially if you insert
> pictures into your messages. Some systems automatically imbed pictures

into
> the signature for each post! I know that the actual method of transmitting
> the pictures in this case is different from attaching binaries to a

message,
> and I do not want to discuss that here. Let's just say that a significant
> portion of Usenet considers HTML messages on Usenet impolite and ignorant.
> 0.4.3. Posting sales / auctions
> This is one of those gray areas. If you cross-post an auction or a sale to
> the entire rmr* hierarchy, then most people will probably consider that

spam
> and will get upset at you. If you must post a sale or an auction, then

post
> only to one or two relevant groups, and make sure that in the subject of
> your message you include an unmistakable description of what the message

is.
> For example, the subject "rad buggy" would not be acceptable, but "[eBay]
> XXX buggy with extras" is fine. You could also use the acronyms "[FA]" to
> indicate 'for auction' and "[FS]" to indicate 'for sale'; please do not
> confuse these two. People also use "[WTB]" for 'Want To Buy'. Not everyone
> is interested in buying stuff, and yes, people will use these indicators

to
> make up filters. Please respect that!
> ------------------------------
> 1. What car should I get first?
> There are several questions that most beginners will have, that are

somewhat
> difficult to answer. This is usually the first one! In order to give any
> kind of a meaningful answer, several things must be known first. These
> include, but are not limited to:
> - how much money do you have / want to spend?
> - where do you mostly intend to drive this car (street / off-road)?
> - do you intend to race in sponsored races?
> - do you want to build your car or not (kit / RTR)?
> - do you want a car to 'learn on and graduate from', or a car that you

will
> 'grow into'?
>
> There are numerous answers to each of these points, and, therefore, there
> are numerous answers to this question.
> [Kerry]
> As you will see, this is no easy question and different people will have
> different answers. My first good R/C car was an HPI RS4 Pro2. I began

racing
> in novice stock classes and when I had the driving down pretty good I

wanted
> a newer car. From there I picked up an Associated TC3 Team Kit. I have

been
 


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