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Old May 16, 2004, 03:39 PM
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Yet another Dave Drive thread!!

OK, here goes; I have spent alot of time on the phone with Dave over the last few weeks regarding his belt drive. I wanted you Guys to know what the status is at this point.

First of all, there are a few reasons for the delays. #1 his day job keeps shipping him out of town for days/weeks on end. #2 his pulley manufacturer cannot seem to get the mold process correct.

Due to these (and other) factors, Dave has only been able to trickle out a few belt drives here and there.

Now, that brings me to the purpose of this email. Dave is now looking at having custom pulleys made to his specs in anodized aluminum, both with oneways and without. This would eliminate the plastic fracturing issues he has been plagued with and it would nearly eliminate his personal machine time. It is also looking like the price would remain roughly the same due to the number of units ordered at once. So, it is looking like a version two belt drive with anodized aluminum pulleys will be coming soon. I have taken up the task of researching the details for him while he is out of town, in an attempt to jump start this whole project as quickly as possible.

On Dave's behaff I would like to say, thanks for your patience in this. Expect more to be posted soon.

Matt.........

Oh, in case you are wondering, I am posting this because Dave's schedule is so tight, he barely has time to breathe right now, let along keep up with the posts!
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Old May 17, 2004, 05:58 AM
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Rock on Dave/Matt! I'll take one. Should look nice with my new CP mode I'll hopefully have soon.

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Old May 17, 2004, 08:34 AM
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Thanks Matt for the update. Please keep us posted. I know your tail rotor belt drive was a major improvement for me. If I win the lottery I am going to upgrade to a main rotor belt drive. Will the crooked crutch work with it or does it require a special crutch?
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Old May 17, 2004, 09:55 AM
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Matt -n- Dave

This sounds like good news - please keep us posted - I'm down right now due to a fractured belt drive.

-Chris
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Old May 17, 2004, 01:47 PM
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I will keep you guys updated on the progress. I am sort of taking this project up as a favor to Dave. The orders will still be credited to him.

I am not positive on the crutch compatibility. I know it fits in the Crazy Crutch. However, I have not put one into a Crooked Crutch yet. I did allow room for it (per Dave's specs). But, I still haven't varified it yet. Once I get the new style Dave Drive kits, I will make sure.

Dave and I have discussed much in the way of this project and we wanted to lay something before you guys. The new aluminum pulleys will cost more than the plastic pulleys to make. But, eliminating the oneway bearing would keep the price the same as with the version one ($54). Dave and I have both researched the oneway thing and, personally, I don't like a oneway. Dave is nuetral on it. I have never been asked for a one way with my AXI belt drive.

Do your orders for the Dave Drive pivot on wether or not it comes with a oneway? Dave wants to offer the kit with, or without it. However, much more money outlay would be required to tool up for two different pulleys to market.

What do you guys think?

Matt........

Oh, hey, how does a blue anodized main pulley sound to you!
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Old May 17, 2004, 02:12 PM
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right on - I'm in for a new main drive less the one way...
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Old May 17, 2004, 02:53 PM
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I am for the new main drive with the pulley made of aluminum. I am hoping it will be campatible with the crooked cutch. I really don't know enough to comment on the one way. I have read that it helps but to be honest I am too new at this to offer any input on it.
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Old May 17, 2004, 03:45 PM
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I'm down for the new kit. I've just got my Astroflight motor back from Astroflight and I'm eager to utilize the Dave Drive efficiency with it.
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Old May 17, 2004, 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heli Mod Man
I am not positive on the crutch compatibility. I know it fits in the Crazy Crutch. However, I have not put one into a Crooked Crutch yet. I did allow room for it (per Dave's specs). But, I still haven't varified it yet. Once I get the new style Dave Drive kits, I will make sure.
Matt,

I volunteer my corona for the trial! =)
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Old May 17, 2004, 04:39 PM
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Hi Guys. I would definately buy an aluminium pulley without the one-way. I have had several one-ways go on me, and had to return to the gear drive. I would definately go with a fixed belt drive. Thanks Dave and Matt! Count me in!
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Old May 17, 2004, 05:01 PM
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Thanks for the Updates!

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Old May 17, 2004, 05:14 PM
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Hey Rob,

Good to hear from you! How is you life going at this point? Are you settled in your new pad?

Matt......
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Old May 17, 2004, 05:24 PM
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Life is good.
I had an oops and broke my carbon tail boom (got some kevlar fabric and going to repair it). Get this...it won't be until Oct. when my place is ready. Now that the weather is getting warmer, I may start to live out of a refridgerator box under a bridge. Anyone know what size fridge box will house 11 e-craft and 1 pilot?

Calgary Flames at San Jose Shark tank tonight...Go Flames Go!
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Old May 17, 2004, 05:56 PM
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I cannot see a use for the one-way.
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Old May 17, 2004, 08:52 PM
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I am hoping to get this new drive system "Off the ground" soon!

Just remember, this is Dave's puppy. I am handling the development on the new design. But it is still his idea.

Oh, I have heard of a few guys having belt skipping issues under load. So, I have made a judgement call to make the new drive use a 3/8 inch belt, up from the original 1/4 inch (if there is enough interest in it). What do you guys think?

Matt............
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