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Old Apr 12, 2004, 12:51 PM
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USA VRQ at Pt Fermin!

We are asking for local cooperation to have the site for the weekend of May 1,2

The Viking Race is the equivalent of the World Champs or Olympics for FAI slope racing. It has a long history going back almost 20 years. The USA is still relativity new to the sport.

We need to select a USA team of 9 of the fastest F3F pilots to represent the USA at the Viking Race.

Fermin is the BEST site possible to hold the qualifier. It offers the most consistent conditions for F3F racing. But you locals already know this.

What we need is the exclusive use of the slope for 2 days, if the conditions are on then we could get the qualifier finished in 1 day but we need the slope.

I know Fermin is not registered with the city as a R/C flying site and we would not stir up the local government. If we had the weekend, I assume a park use permit would help.

So what do you say? Are you willing to give up a weekend of piping so we can put on the race? How about entering or helping?

Note: Nothing is official. We are just asking at the moment for your possible cooperation.
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 01:16 PM
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Sounds like a "frigin" great idea! I'm willing to come and help, i'll even fly if you want some extra fodder. Unfortunatley I can't make the Viking race, although one of these days I plan to.

Hopefully with a months advance notice the locals can spread the word that the slope will be "out of order" for a weekend. I'm sure 99% of them will be happy to let the pilots that will be representing the USA in the Viking cup have the slope for a couple of days.

So put the lead sleds down for a day and bring your butts out to fermin to help the USA kick some international butt

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Old Apr 12, 2004, 01:40 PM
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Sure, just schedule a start time, lunch break and a shut down time for the event, to pacify said Locals.
There is no way I will sit by on a booming day and not get some, even if just a little bit. If I raced I would of course jump in and spank everyones butt, but I dont, so I will come down and watch the "professionals" do there thing.
Sound fair?
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 01:47 PM
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Hopefully the famous dude who flys electric with power on in 40 mph Fermin lift wont show up and insist on flying.

I wish I could be there to watch too. I wanna listen to the knees knocking when those guys try to land those $1500 planes at Fermin!
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 02:06 PM
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Well we are certainly not "professionals" in any way, we fly a lot of different types of models and race man on man as well as 1/2 pipe and even some foam. We just choose to put our skills up on the clock against everyone else now and then for braggin' rights but mostly for fun. This event is once every two years. We certainly could share the air if the site had enough slope face but we both need the same airspace at Fermin.

Landing there is not an issue, those that have trouble there have trouble everywhere else too.

We have the same responses from the Scale guys at Torrey, "I will never give up a day of flying" and this is usually from the guys that live there and could fly there 365 days a year.

It's up to the locals, I assume most won't have a real problem but the ones that will show up "Just to make a point" will ruin the event for us so that is why I am asking.
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 02:10 PM
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Im with Ray.....I wouldnt mind as long as I get my fix even if its only 10-15min, if that

...GoUSA!!!!!
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 02:16 PM
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You guys wouldn't give up a single, or possibly two days of flying, no questions asked, at your LOCAL slope to be able to pick a team to represent the USA? Seriously?
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 02:19 PM
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I'll make Ray help me make the templates for the foam he wants me to cut that day. That outta keep him at bay for a little while anyway.

Target

PS. Besides, Ray and Henry, you guys can fly at Bluff Cove that day.(?)
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 02:22 PM
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So what is this vrq thing then. If you guys arent the "Best of the Best", or are you just being humble?

"We have the same responses from the Scale guys at Torrey, "I will never give up a day of flying" and this is usually from the guys that live there and could fly there 365 days a year"

This one always comes from the guys that dont live here! If the wind blew good 365 days a year one weekend would not be an issue. Surely you can preplan your event with a start time, break and end time. The other Race Group that came through did with no problems as I recall, wasnt that you as well?

I love to watch the races personally, especially the big unlimited plane that Brian and Joe fly, they are some of the most fastest and effecient airplanes I have ever seen. But some of those guys out right suck, real bad. Making me wish I had the money to invest in those glass ships. I doubt I could whoop up on the top Dawgs, but I know I would not take last. But put my lead sled down for a whole weekend, and the wind is booming..............( ) fill in the blank.

What about PSS Glass ship man on man..... I got you all covered in that case and event.

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Old Apr 12, 2004, 02:28 PM
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You guys wouldn't give up a single, or possibly two days of flying, no questions asked, at your LOCAL slope to be able to pick a team to represent the USA? Seriously?

and you call yourself a "certified slopehead" tsk tsk tsk.......... the answer is no. (but only because I am feeling argumentative at the moment) And this event, is going to be the selection process for the USA of non pros? Not the Best of the Best?
Heck I can tell you the team right now. The same guys that were on the last team and the last team before that.
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 02:30 PM
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I'll make Ray help me make the templates for the foam he wants me to cut that day. That outta keep him at bay for a little while anyway.

Target

PS. Besides, Ray and Henry, you guys can fly at Bluff Cove that day.(?)

Bluff sucks.........and that is just plain mean spirited of you Target, because it would so work to keep me off the hill.

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Old Apr 12, 2004, 02:34 PM
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I wanted to argue, but it's not my post, I'm not in the races, and I don't fly Fermin, so I'm going to bow out now once and for all. Good luck with the negotiations.
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 03:02 PM
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From my point of view as an outsider ( German who lives in Canada), but knows a little bit the szene:

Pretty sad, that locals don't see the big ger) picture.

and comes down to personal issues: ....."Making me wish I had the money to invest in those glass ships. I doubt I could whoop up on the top Dawgs, but I know I would not take last..."

Cheers
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 03:15 PM
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OK Thomas, being the local that I am, and still feeling fiesty, what's the big picture, what are you talking about.
I already said come down and hold the race, I already said I like to watch and have no problem with watching, but I dont want to see a whole weekend of good lift gone to the racers. So please by all means, open my eyes to the big ger picture that I am missing here.
Ray



PS I do not speak for every Fermin local, but I do speak with more give and take than you will get from some of the other guys that fly at Fermin all the time, that you can trust and bank on.
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Old Apr 12, 2004, 03:20 PM
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Come on Ray, this is the best chance that I'll have to watch the "big guns" fly F3F without having to drive 100 miles, and I HAVE to drive 75 miles each way to work, so...cant you just get in a couple good days of building, and spend the evenings with the significant other??
I'll cut your cores, to keep you busy.
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