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Old Feb 03, 2014, 10:17 AM
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Philip Seymour Hoffman was found dead...

From TMZ:

"Philip Seymour Hoffman was found dead Sunday in a New York City apartment of an apparent drug overdose ... TMZ has learned authorities found a needle in his arm."

Drug addictions run in a progression. Does anyone know how this addiction started? What was the drug that got him addicted, and caused him to eventually be on heroin? Did he start with heroin, or something else? And, even with the money he had, and trips to rehab, why was he not able to kick an addiction that ultimately ended his life?
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 10:21 AM
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Clearly the only solution is to legalize Heroin. Then he could get the help he needs and take the drugs in safe and hygienic manner.
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 10:30 AM
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LOL Heard the needle was still sticking out of his arm.
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 10:39 AM
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From TMZ:

"Philip Seymour Hoffman was found dead Sunday in a New York City apartment of an apparent drug overdose ... TMZ has learned authorities found a needle in his arm."

Drug addictions run in a progression. Does anyone know how this addiction started? What was the drug that got him addicted, and caused him to eventually be on heroin? Did he start with heroin, or something else? And, even with the money he had, and trips to rehab, why was he not able to kick an addiction that ultimately ended his life?
Opiate addictions are diseases, not just addictions. It's a self inflicted disease, but its not "cureable" per say. The brain chemistry changes, etc, there is always a craving for that opiate. Some people just can't get passed that, although with $ there is no reason not to take suboxone or subsolve to keep you off opiates.
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 11:17 AM
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From TMZ:

"Philip Seymour Hoffman was found dead Sunday in a New York City apartment of an apparent drug overdose ... TMZ has learned authorities found a needle in his arm."

Drug addictions run in a progression. Does anyone know how this addiction started? What was the drug that got him addicted, and caused him to eventually be on heroin? Did he start with heroin, or something else? And, even with the money he had, and trips to rehab, why was he not able to kick an addiction that ultimately ended his life?

probably Alcohol or Nicotine.............................
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 11:18 AM
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It was probably a hot dose (drug more pure) addicts always want to push the limits and
it cost him . I don't feel much of a loss in my world . Had millions and died with a needle
in his arm ................mommy musta been mean to him as a child I guess.
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 11:26 AM
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mommy musta been mean to him as a child I guess.
Don't underestimate the effects that childhood trauma, or any trauma, can have on addiction.
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 11:41 AM
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Don't underestimate the effects that childhood trauma, or any trauma, can have on addiction.
Could be the opposite as well - maybe opiates are the only way he could replicate the feeling of total love and joy that a child feels from Mom.
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 11:57 AM
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Don't underestimate the effects that childhood trauma, or any trauma, can have on addiction.
Thanks Tim , I understand about childhood abuse more than I want to tell.
I was addicted to opiates hydrocodone in particular It took a lot of counseling
and work on my part to finally put them down. Most of the staunch conservatives
are quick to make fun of Hollywood types , Hoffman had some issue to stick
a needle in his arm , Just like a girl from a Texas town named Janis Joplin ,
who on the week she died several others did too with uncut pure heroin that
was given them by the dope dealer..........this actor knew darn well what he
was doing regardless of his childhood traumas . At some point you HAVE to
talk personal responsibility ..........Right Tim ? thanks for asking .....
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 11:58 AM
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LOL Heard the needle was still sticking out of his arm.
I'm not sure why that would be something to laugh about. YMOV


Reality can be a real problem with people making a living pretending to be someone else. Very sad really.
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 11:59 AM
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Thanks Tim , I understand about childhood abuse more than I want to tell.
I was addicted to opiates hydrocodone in particular It took a lot of counseling
and work on my part to finally put them down. Most of the staunch conservatives
are quick to make fun of Hollywood types , Hoffman had some issue to stick
a needle in his arm , Just like a girl from a Texas town named Janis Joplin ,
who on the week she died several others did too with uncut pure heroin that
was given them by the dope dealer..........this actor knew darn well what he
was doing regardless of his childhood traumas . At some point you HAVE to
talk personal responsibility ..........Right Tim ? thanks for asking .....
peace love and harmony.com will make everyone a happy camper
As someone who was addicted to 'sets, you should understand herion is like that addiction x10,000
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 12:35 PM
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I'm not sure why that would be something to laugh about. YMOV


Reality can be a real problem with people making a living pretending to be someone else. Very sad really.
Maybe I should have more compassion for rich Hollywood types addicted to drugs. Frankly I have no idea who he even is, never heard of him before this.
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 12:38 PM
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Maybe I should have more compassion for rich Hollywood types addicted to drugs. Frankly I have no idea who he even is, never heard of him before this.
You know it's really the GOP's fault.

If the GOP would only let Obama raise taxes on the rich then he would not have had enough money to OD. The most he could afford would give him a strong headache.
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 12:49 PM
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LOL Heard the needle was still sticking out of his arm.
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Maybe I should have more compassion for rich Hollywood types addicted to drugs. Frankly I have no idea who he even is, never heard of him before this.
Wow. So, you didn't know who he was, but still LOL'd at having heard that?
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Old Feb 03, 2014, 12:57 PM
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Wow. So, you didn't know who he was, but still LOL'd at having heard that?
I heard he was a rich Hollywood actor. But you are right, shouldn't have laughed.
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