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Old Feb 01, 2014, 02:59 PM
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after all this time i can't still get an accurate size comparrison of this plane in my head,can anyone take a picture of it beside another smaller plane to give us an idea?

is it much wider and longer than say the visionaire??

i know the dimensions of it obviously but it's just hard to make out how big it looks in the pics.
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 03:06 PM
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after all this time i can't still get an accurate size comparrison of this plane in my head,can anyone take a picture of it beside another smaller plane to give us an idea?
is it much wider and longer than say the visionaire??
i know the dimensions of it obviously but it's just hard to make out how big it looks in the pics.
Even better, IMHO, would be a picture of it next to a person...

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Old Feb 01, 2014, 03:38 PM
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Even better, IMHO, would be a picture of it next to a person.



exactly!! it's sometimes hard to get a good size comparrison from pictures.
that woman in that pic could be a midget!!
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 03:39 PM
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Even better, IMHO, would be a picture of it next to a person.

What plane? I only see a girl...
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 04:19 PM
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 05:30 PM
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after all this time i can't still get an accurate size comparrison of this plane in my head,can anyone take a picture of it beside another smaller plane to give us an idea?

is it much wider and longer than say the visionaire??

i know the dimensions of it obviously but it's just hard to make out how big it looks in the pics.
Not sure that pictures would be a good show of the difference either. It would depend on what angle and how they were positioned in relation to the camera. They are so close in size that it just might not show in pictures. In reality, the wingspan is only 3" longer on the Yak compared to visionaire and the visionaire has more square inches of wing area, so the wings are wider (front to back) so almost no visible difference in the wings. The biggest difference is length with the Yak being 6" longer. And even colors and pattern of colors can make things look bigger or smaller. I know just to look at both of them separately at the field, my original Yak gives the impression of being much bigger than the visionaire, but if you put them together and study size, the only difference you will see if you look at the right angle is the length. Also, part of the appearance of size may come from the large diameter of the fuselage, running all the way to the prop vs the big taper of the visionaire fuse.
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 05:38 PM
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Seriously, a picture of a person holding it (or balancing it on its spinner) gives an excellent sense of scale.

The person need not be in a bikini. (But, probably the person should be in *something*.)

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Old Feb 01, 2014, 05:40 PM
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Hmmm....wonder how the website came up with such different specs. That's a BIG typo.
That is a big typo, not to mention false marketing, and dissapointing. I was really looking foward to this thing being competive with comparative balsa planes but its just not there...
The battery isn't 45C battery spec'd on the website either. I was pretty excited about this plane but that took a little wind out from under my wings. Too bad cause it looks so good too...
Shame on Horizon.
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 05:42 PM
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Even better, IMHO, would be a picture of it next to a person.

That hot chick saddling up on that plane made me feel better though.
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 05:50 PM
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Right from the website.

Product Specifications
Wingspan: 48.0 in (1220mm)
Overall Length: 48.5 in (1230mm)
Wing Area: 525 sq. in. (34.0 sq. dm.)
Flying Weight: 3.15-3.20 lb (1.4-1.5 kg)
Motor Size: 25-size 1,000Kv brushless outrunner (installed)
Radio: 6+ channel DSM2/DSMX radio required
CG (center of gravity): 4.72 in (120mm) back from the leading edge of wing at wing root
Wing Loading: 13.8 oz/sq ft (45 g/sq dm)
Prop Size: 12 x 5.25 (included)
Speed Control : 60-amp swich-mode BEC brushless ESC (installed)
Recommended Battery: 14.8V 4S 2800mAh 45C LiPo battery (included)
Flaps: No
Retracts: No
Control Throw (Ailerons): Low: 37mm up/down, 10% expo; High: 70mm up/down, 45% expo
Control Throw (Elevator): Low: 19mm up/down, 10% expo; High: 75mm up/down, 40% expo
Control Throw (Rudder): Low: 65mm right/left, 10% expo; High: 110mm up/down, 40% expo
Approx. Flying Duration: 5 minutes
Minimum Age Recommendation: 14 years
Experience Level: Intermediate
Recommended Environment: Outdoor
Assembly Time: Less than 1 Hour
Is Assembly Required: Yes

What is wrong with these guys anyways??? If i made those kinds of mistakes at my job i'd probably get fired... maybe... well i could probably talk my way out of it, but just sayin.
Horizon should be working on building peoples trust, especially after all the past issues that the've had. At least they got the delivery right...
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 06:07 PM
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That is a big typo, not to mention false marketing, and dissapointing. I was really looking foward to this thing being competive with comparative balsa planes but its just not there...
The battery isn't 45C battery spec'd on the website either. I was pretty excited about this plane but that took a little wind out from under my wings. Too bad cause it looks so good too...
Shame on Horizon.
We all know you are perfect and don't make mistakes Dramatic much? It is still very competitive in weight with 3DHS and Extreme Flight planes on 4S. You can always change the prop and run 3S. It won't be nearly as fun but it will be light. Weight is not everything guys!!!!
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 06:16 PM
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Not sure that pictures would be a good show of the difference either. It would depend on what angle and how they were positioned in relation to the camera. They are so close in size that it just might not show in pictures. In reality, the wingspan is only 3" longer on the Yak compared to visionaire and the visionaire has more square inches of wing area, so the wings are wider (front to back) so almost no visible difference in the wings. The biggest difference is length with the Yak being 6" longer. And even colors and pattern of colors can make things look bigger or smaller. I know just to look at both of them separately at the field, my original Yak gives the impression of being much bigger than the visionaire, but if you put them together and study size, the only difference you will see if you look at the right angle is the length. Also, part of the appearance of size may come from the large diameter of the fuselage, running all the way to the prop vs the big taper of the visionaire fuse.





thanks bobly for your informative post,now i have a good idea of the size.

guys,does it matter so much if it's the same weight as the old plane or even if it's not any lighter,granted it's not good if the weight was specified lower but however does it matter so much? the plane runs on a 4cell pack so it will have heaps of power and power that won't even be used all the time.
i honestly don't think the slight weight reduction you wanted is going to make any major differnce to the planes performance anyway,the easiest way and fastest way to shed some weight on this is go a slightly smaller battery.

just saying...
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 06:36 PM
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Nice stuff edge pilot..... good build report,looking forward to your maiden
Ditto that's super helpful edge pilot

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francis,

impressive set up you got there,you are gone very technical about it sure makes for intresting stuff though
Many thanks I think you and everyone else will love it when you see it Aiming for the video to be released within two weeks max Although the weather has been so bad here it's unbelieveable

Kind regards,
Francis
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Old Feb 02, 2014, 08:12 AM
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Well although that my comparisons aren't as attractive I took a couple common planes and compared the Yak with.

As far as all the hype on the typo's being an issue..........................................wou ld have been nice if they wouldn't have "mislead" a few people, BUT it doesn't make any difference to me. I wanted the original plane for a while and never got around to buying it. Once I saw the AS3X model I jumped on it the first day announced with ZERO regrets.

The box seams to have the correct info on it, the battery says "30C", and the weight seams correct. The "specs" page on Horizon's site seams to be the only misleading info, again no big deal to me.

Wish the weather would cooperate so I could get outdoors and fly this thing.

pictures are with a Stryker, Habu 2, and a Goblin 500
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Old Feb 02, 2014, 08:27 AM
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Yeah it is a shame the specs got skewed. I have had all the parts to build the V1 for a long time. It is getting closer in the que. I had the Visionaire for a while last summer and sold it. I have been planning to use the Yak as a replacement. I was going to use a different rx gyro combo for more flexibility until Spektrum announced the new AS3X receivers at the toy fair. In light of the few differences between V1 and V2 I think I will wait for the AR636 to come available and set the V1 up with that. I also might try using the V2's gear for that added hight.

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