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Old Apr 27, 2004, 01:41 PM
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ACE Simple Series 'Whizard'

Model: ACE Simple Series 'Whizard'
Motor: Speed 300 6v
Speed Control: SkyPro 30A
Cell type/count: 7 600AE
Prop: APC E 9x6
Reduction method and ratio: SimProp 5:1.
Prop RPM: +- 6000
Amps: 6A -7A
Weight Ready to Fly: 580g
Comments : 6 minutes flight, will fly at 3/4 throttle comfortably. A very nice trainer... very stable.
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Old May 01, 2004, 10:51 PM
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Depron Jet, HV Hacker and Vasa 55

This is Ver 8
All Depron and Carbon Fiber construction, my own design.
AUW 16.25 oz
27" WS, 32" length, wing area about 440sqin.
Power system:
Vasa 55, CC35, Hacker B20 26L on 6s 1500 Tanics
Custom heat sink, inlet ring and exit tube,
350ah rec. pack, 3 Cir 4.4 and FMA M5

Perf:
Speed as yet unkown (read fast), unlimtd Vert, 41000 rpm, 660 grams thrust.
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Old May 05, 2004, 03:15 PM
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Model: GWS Corsair
Motor: HiMax 2015/4100
ESC: CC Phoenix 25
Cells: 3s Kokam 1500HD
Prop: APC 11*7 SF
Gearbox: Gws 300
Gear: C Gear 5.3:1
Amps: 13.5 (Static - Full Throttle)
Watts 103 (Static - Full Throttle)
Comments: Flys great half throttle or less.
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Old May 05, 2004, 05:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edkoz
Model: GWS Corsair
Motor: HiMax 2015/4100
ESC: CC Phoenix 25
Cells: 3s Kokam 1500HD
Prop: APC 11*7 SF
Gearbox: Gws 300
Gear: C Gear 5.3:1
Amps: 13.5 (Static - Full Throttle)
Watts 103 (Static - Full Throttle)
Comments: Flys great half throttle or less.
Looks like you're reporting the same things I found with the Kokams. They just don't get the voltage to the motor and the output wattage suffers. I'm curious, what are those 1500's rated at "C" wise. I know the packs I tried were so far overrated that it did damage to them when I run them at what they had told everybody to. They also didn't stand behind them when I called to ask what they were going to do about the issue...even after they had lowered the C rating.
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Old May 05, 2004, 09:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SharksTooth
Looks like you're reporting the same things I found with the Kokams. They just don't get the voltage to the motor and the output wattage suffers. I'm curious, what are those 1500's rated at "C" wise. I know the packs I tried were so far overrated that it did damage to them when I run them at what they had told everybody to. They also didn't stand behind them when I called to ask what they were going to do about the issue...even after they had lowered the C rating.
I got them from Light Flight RC and they're rated at 8 - 10 C. It's really a good fit for this motor because it's efficient operating current is between 5 and 12 amps. They're just "warm" to the touch after a flight - definitely not anywhere near too hot.
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Old May 05, 2004, 09:58 PM
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PLEASE keep discussion of these power systems out of this thread!
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Old May 07, 2004, 06:02 AM
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Model: Flair/ben Buckle Junior 60
Motor: AXI 2820/10
ESC: Model Motors 4012-3
Cells: 7 KAN 3000 NIMH
Prop: MA electric wood 12x8
Gearbox: -
Gear: -
Amps: 32.4 full (volts drop to 6.7)
Watts 214 w input at full throttle
Comments:
Conversion from stock design with Master motor and gearbox to Axi during construction. Flies really well, tends to climb at 50-60 degress on full throtlle, need more down thrust (currently at 2 deg). Idles around the sky without loosing height at approx 6.5 amp draw. Flight times with three or four touch and goes and the rest lazy flight 29 mins measured
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Old May 08, 2004, 06:54 PM
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Diablotin Mini
Hacker B50 13S
Jeti 70-3P
TP 5S3P
16x10APC
33amps-700 watts
4 pounds


LEXX
Hacker B50 9XL
Jeti 77-3P
TP 6S3P
14x12 or 15x10 APC
43 amps-990 watts
92 ounces
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Old May 10, 2004, 10:03 AM
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Axi 2212/26
Jetti 18 3P
3s Kokam 1500, TP 3s 2100
GWS 11/4.7
Plane: 3DX Flat Foamy
AUW 14.5 oz (ouch)
1 comment "I love it" see the video...

http://www.austinslopesoaring.com/videos/wayne3d.wmv

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Old May 11, 2004, 07:13 PM
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Model: Dare B-25 Mitchell--42" span, 15.8 oz. AUW
Motors: PJS 300SF outrunner brushless
ESCs: CC Phoenix 10s, w/ both BECs enabled
Cells: 3s1p Etec 1200 Li-Polys
Props: 3-bladed Varioprop 7.2 x 4, scale blades
Gearbox: none--direct drive
Gear: -
Amps: 9.3 amps peak--Motocalc #
Watts: 62 (66% efficiency)--Motocalc #

Comments: A nice powerful setup that's more than enough for a stick-and-tissue model designed for rubber power. Just over 1:1 thrust (maybe 16 oz.), will cruise easily at 1/2 throttle, 10-11-minute flights. Night-and-day improvement over IPS power system previously installed.
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Old May 11, 2004, 10:37 PM
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Gilbert, Arizona
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Model: All EPP: SLOFLY "MINI" 28" with CF spar
Motor: J250
Prop: GWS 4025
Rx/ESC: Plantraco DSP4SC
Servos: GWS 5.7 GR.
Cells: 3s1p 340 mah
Gearbox: None...Owners design shaft-drive (pictured)
Amps: Limited to 5 A. or less...by throttle management
Avg. Duration: 15 min.
AUW: 6 1/4 oz.

Comments: It's a blast!
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Old May 12, 2004, 11:52 PM
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SKY RAIDER MACH-I by WORLD MODELS

Model/subject: SKY RAIDER MACH-I by WORLD MODELS
Motor: KYOSHO ENDOPLASMA 16-Turn R/C Truck "BRUSH" Motor
Speed Control: MEC MX-50 Brush ESC (Heli)
Cell type/count: 8-Cells, GP-3300mAH, Ni-MH
Prop/fan: APC "E" 12 X 8
Reduction method and ratio: Great Planes GD-600 (Optinal 3.8:1 Ratio)
Amps: 36.3 AMPS (Measured, ASTRO FLIGHT WATT 101 Meter)
Watts: 330 WATTS (Measured, ASTRO FLIGHT WATT 101 Meter)
RPM: 6,750 RPM @ PROP (Measured Great Planes TACH)
Weight Read to Fly: 5lbs. - 2 1/8 oz. (or 5.13 lbs.)
Comments and links to other forums for more info:
GO TO:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...4&page=1&pp=10

and,

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225134

Carlos
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Old May 13, 2004, 07:05 AM
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Model/subject: GWS FORMOSA
Motor: RAZOR RZ-400
Speed Control: CC PHX-25 (Programmed without Brake and SOFTEST start)
Cell type/count: THUNDER POWER 2100mAH, 3S1P, Li-POLYs
Prop/fan: APC "SF" 10 X 7
Reduction method and ratio: GWS EPS-300C "C" (5.33:1 ratio)
Amps: 8.2 AMPS @ WOT
Watts: ?
RPM: ?
Weight Read to Fly: 17 oz.
Comments and links to other forums for more info, video, etc.

For those of you that have RAZOR RZ-400/350 motors then, here's another way to secure your motor in the GWS EPS-300/350 gearbox. The O-Ring is available from HOME DEPOT and improves the side loads and reduces the stress on the front attaching hex motor screws!

For those of you that have removed the motor from the gearbox several times you may have notice that the thread on the motor front case my have enlarged or a slightly enlarged that those screws tend to come out at the most unlikely time such as in-flight!

I used plumbers tape (White Flexable and stretchy) with great success. I think they call it TEFLON TAPE? I cut a small strip and wrap it around the hex screw and then, screw it into the motor which acts like Loc Tie but, with much safer conditions!

RESULTS: FANTASTIC!

She flew for a short 8 minute and 19 second flight during lunch time at the Space Center and the motor/gearbox stayed in one piece finally and the landing was super smooth!
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Old May 17, 2004, 07:11 PM
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Acent With Cobalt Motor upgrade.

400 can with Lite AAA 700 cells Good. But 400 Cobalt 190+Watts and 1100 kan 8 cells better.
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Old May 23, 2004, 04:46 PM
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Reichard Modelsport ELIPSOID

Model/subject:Reichard Modelsport ELIPSOID
Motor: Model Motors AXI2820/10
Speed Control:JETI 40A
Cell type/count:8 X SANYO RC3300HV
Prop:12X9
Reduction method and ratio:n/a
Amps:n/a
Watts:n/a
RPM:n/a
Weight Read to Fly:1850 Kg (~66 Oz)

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