The Criterion 2wd Buggy offers performance, durability and value in an incredibly user-friendly package. Constructed from lightweight yet strong material, the fully independent suspension and oil-filled shocks soak up even the worst terrain. A 2.4GHz 3-channel radio system eliminates frequency conflicts, while the 12-turn motor churns out blistering acceleration and incredible top speeds in excess of 30mph. A 3000mAh 7-cCell NiMH rechargeable battery pack provides excellent runtime while an incredibly efficient LiPo compatible waterproof Metric 30A electronic speed controller (ESC) with reverse puts you in full control. Full ball bearings throughout the vehicle reduce friction and increase runtime. A robust waterproof servo gives crisp steering response while the high grip; long wear tires keep you hooked up over a multitude of surfaces. Included is a 1Amp A/C wall charger that improves your driving-to-waiting ratio. Visit www.HelionRC.com often so you’ll never be out of touch with the latest innovations headed your way from Helion!
|Motor||12T 540 Brushed|
|Battery||Tamiya(R) Connector, Hump Configuration|
|Gear Pitch||48P (P:20, S:78)|
|Wheels||12mm Hex (ASC and KYO Compatible)|
|Weight (approx)||1560g (3.44lb)|
|Internal Gear Ratio||2.62:1|
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.Last edited by Paul Onorato; Sep 24, 2013 at 12:44 PM..
|Sep 24, 2013, 01:50 PM|
Could it be some postings were removed from this thread? I remember a speed comparison vid, and me having posted in this thread. None to be found again?
I wonder what the lifespan of the 12T motor wlll be. With the Traxxas vehicles it's often short lived, and this car pushes the motor even further.
|Sep 24, 2013, 02:25 PM|
My post was removed as well. It was questioning the wisdom of bringing this vehicle to market but I didn't think it was controversial.
|Sep 24, 2013, 04:06 PM|
That was a mistake with losing those posts. Not intentional, we had to update the original post that Helion vehicles are now available through the www.HelionRC.com website. SORRY ABOUT THAT!!!
|Sep 24, 2013, 05:03 PM|
Good to see that it wasn't my mind playing tricks on me. I wonder if they also compared run time on the stock battery for each car. And I wonder about motor temps after a run. If the motor used has higher efficiency, it could even run cooler than the 12T on the Bandit. But if it's just an agressively advanced timing stock can motor, it will run hot fast, and have short life expectancy,
|Sep 24, 2013, 08:20 PM|
Well I will try to recreate my thoughts on this buggy.
I think this is an odd move for Helion. It is clearly aimed at bashers as evidenced by the non adjustable camber and steering links. However for their first entry into a 2wd chassis should have been a short course truck. They are waning in popularity,but it is still the biggest class going at most tracks.
I also can't buy being able to get 33mph out of a brushed buggy and still have any kind of useful gearing. A bandit with it's speed gear can get close to that at 30mph but it is pointless to drive it off road like that. The motor will overheat in very short order and die a quick death.
So until I see what gearing they are using to get that, I would call it a pointless test.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not all negative. I really do wish them well on this kit and I want to be proved wrong. I just don't think I am at first glance.
|Nov 19, 2013, 08:54 PM|
As far as having any gearing left and over heating here is a video of the buggy running offroad and motor came of the track with no over heating issues. The video only is filmed few minutes of nearly 10 minutes that it was running.
|Nov 19, 2013, 09:36 PM|
I did see the Short Course release Good for them. About a month and a half after the buggy. Not bad.
That video looks good once it gets up to speed. It sure looks overgeared coming out of the slow rhythm section in the center and if it spins out on a turn and has to start from a dead stop. The skeptic in me would still like to see them pull off the track and put a temp gun on the motor too.
This is not to put the Criterion down in any other way, just so much emphasis is being put on its drastically higher top speed and I feel like I need to be a voice of reason on that point.
Like I said before, I want to be proven wrong on this, and I want them to do well with this buggy. If they can give a 33mph top speed, not burn out the motor in short order, and give good acceleration then more power to them
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