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Old Aug 18, 2013, 03:29 PM
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What's the etiquette when someone hits your plane

First time in my life when someone does a bone head turn and flies right into me. I was flying first, straight line, very slow past the tree line, probably 250-300 feet high at our field when a large gasser goes up makes one pass and then for some stupid reason makes a right (in the center of the field not at the end) and clips my wing on a Top Model Prelude sailplane which is a $315 ARF. Safety officer comes up to the both of us and tells the other guy it was his fault, everyone that saw it knew that I was just flying a straight line.

So no offer was made to help fund the repair. The other guy tells me I should rebuild it. That's fine if you have that kind of skill set. I don't and it's the reason I buy ARF's. And I doubt with this kind of sailplane you could easily make a wing that will fly as well as it did.

So just curious what does the average club do in these kinds of issues?
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 03:37 PM
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Accidents happen. It's very difficult to get something replaced. Used to be two reasons. One someone turned on without checking the frequency board. With 2.4 this is obsete. Second is a pit accident, stepping on a plane or taxi-ing into another plane.
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 03:43 PM
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its always nobody's fault.
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 03:43 PM
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It's difficult because you are taking part in a sport which sadly does have these "accidents", therefore the risk is a known one, and if you choose to fly in a club with others, then the threat is always present when there are 2 or more flying at once.
It is also beneficial to have powered flight /sail planes/ heli's etc flying together in their respective groups rather than all at once to help prevent such accidents.
You may want to approach your safety officer and club chairman (if you have one?) and try to seek an agreeable outcome. Even if half of the costs to have it repaired/replaced to be honoured by the other pilot, providing of course you have the backing of your club.
Seeing as your safety officer witnessed it and spoke to the other pilot you are in a fairly strong position, but it still comes back to my first point. Does your club have rules which state no cross leg flying? If his move is deemed as dangerous then that may also go some way.

There is of course the civil law route????
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 03:54 PM
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next time, don't fly so close to other planes.
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 03:56 PM
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I'm sorry, but I feel that a mid-air is just an accident. I'll pay for my plane, you pay for yours.
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
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I'm just a newbie so take that into consideration...

I'm not living paycheck to paycheck and have a conscience, so if I hit someone else's plane I'd probably offer a little compensation....if I could barely afford to fly it might be a different matter. I also do agree you take a risk flying around other planes though.
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 04:22 PM
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I'm sorry, but I feel that a mid-air is just an accident. I'll pay for my plane, you pay for yours.
Agreed. Mid airs can happen if flying with others in the air.
Its part of the hobby.

Noone's fault, BUT, an offer to assist/help pay the the gentleman's way in my opinion
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 04:27 PM
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The construction doesn't look all that exotic. I'd consider a rebuild. It looks like you'll need some hobby shop balsa and a replacement carbon tube.
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 04:52 PM
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I agree that the person who ran into your plane should have apologized. If they felt it was their fault and they were truly in the wrong then I think they should have made an offer to help repair the wing or replace it.

I went flying today with the guy who owns the local hobby shop at a place I'd never flown with people I'd never flown with. They fly off of the dead end of a 5 lane road - nice paved runway to fly from. One of the guys planes got a bit squirrelly on rollout and managed to smack the bumper of my '11 VW Tiguan. Left a nice little scuff and a couple of light cuts in the plastic. He offered to make it right.

Mid airs when one person is obviously in the wrong should be the same.
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 05:31 PM
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This is just my opinion! you know what they are like? everybody's got one,,, but to start with, at my club, which is very small and only about 20 members, if this happened, I'm certain any of our members would offer to pay for, of at least offer some kind of help to get the plane repaired or replace! and so should he! I understand accidents happen, but if he said sorry... and played it like it was no big deal, that wouldn't cut it for me.... but that's just me...
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 06:36 PM
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If I would have blatantly been at fault for taking down someone's plane I would have on the spot offered to buy the parts to fix it and offer to help in the repair. I didn't even get an apology.
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 06:49 PM
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he was probably mad at you for hitting his plane... and not getting an apology
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 06:51 PM
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he was probably mad at you for hitting his plane... and not getting an apology
You are basically right, he was upset his prop broke.
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Old Aug 18, 2013, 08:08 PM
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A midair is just part of the hobby. They are nobodys fault, and nobody is responsible for anyones but their own plane to replace in this type of event. After all accidents do happen. I know I would not be able to pay for somebody elses plane If we collided. Even if my 3dhs 57'' extra that I put 1K into got into a midair I would not hold the other person responsible.
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