Turbo-Fan 4000 from Aero-Naut

MaHö · Feb 05, 2004, 02:40 AM

Look at this, sounds great!
Big EDF!!

A new Fan:

http://www.aero-naut.de/aeronaut/de/allg/index.html?http://www.aero-naut.de/aeronaut/de/flugzubehoer/turbofan4000.htm

Also new

Dassault-Breguet Rafale C -Aramid-

Chris True · Feb 05, 2004, 07:28 AM

Sounds good, wonder when it will be available? Aeronaut generally releases info long before the products hit the shelves.

gkamysz · Feb 05, 2004, 10:18 AM

So who will be the first to cry that this is a copy of the Schubeler? or was Daniel involved in the design of this fan?

Greg

Herb · 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaHö
Look at this, sounds great! Big EDF!! A new Fan ... Rafale ...

It was discussed here, it will available in May, at the earliest:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...&pagenumber=48

and here:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...&pagenumber=15

James Frolik · Feb 05, 2004, 01:57 PM

That sure does look like it is a Schübeler make.

hoser · Feb 05, 2004, 09:03 PM

I'm not crying, the only similarity is the CF material used.

Nice to have a whole big EDF kit on the market that is not married to the HP hunk of gold motor.... which I'm still waiting for BTW.

I'm getting this thing for sure after Florida jets and flying formation with Herb!

gkamysz · Feb 06, 2004, 08:38 PM

It doesn't need a Pletti but Tango aren't that much cheaper. Based on the Tango 45-08 data the have on the site, it's turning 22,400RPM at 30V input and 45A. 45A is already the current limit of that motor. I don't know why the chart goes up to 55A.

The fan still takes a lot of torque to turn. I don't think two pole motors will work in it. The larger Lehners might, if they fit.

Greg

hoser · Feb 06, 2004, 09:06 PM

you're right Greg !
just nice to have a full big edf kit... I'll put my HP 370 in it then

Gordito Volador · Feb 06, 2004, 11:53 PM

Hey Hoser,

If you need more room in your hanger, I can always look after your MIG-25 for you!

Regards, Bill

hoser · Feb 07, 2004, 09:53 AM

you're funny Bill but right !

I'll bring it to Fl jets and we will see

Gordito Volador · Feb 07, 2004, 10:28 AM

Do I need to bring a power plant and servos so you can show me how to fly it?

Regards, Bill

captinnitro · Feb 07, 2004, 10:51 AM

Hi. does anyone have an idea on how much this fan will go for? I hope aeronaut's fan is not as ridiculously priced as schubeler. I can't believe that there isn't a fan out there that can put out 6 to 7 lb under $200. Wow, we can put a man on the moon, and a probe on mars, but we can't build a inexpensive powerful ducted fan...lol

Haldor · Feb 07, 2004, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by captinnitro
Wow, we can put a man on the moon, and a probe on mars, but we can't build a inexpensive powerful ducted fan...lol

Have checked the $ figures needed for the Moon/Mars missions?

Herb · Feb 07, 2004, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by captinnitro
... I can't believe that there isn't a fan out there that can put out 6 to 7 lb under $200. ...

www.wemotec.com

captinnitro · Feb 07, 2004, 01:38 PM

wow the 750! Now that's more like it! thanks herb!!! I have been trying to talk to locate you and chat with you. I have been told by few members that you are a guru when it comes to setting up the wemotech fans. I want to start a new project but having a hard time deciding witch is the best fan to use. I would like to build a multi fan jet like the b1b or b-58. but when I do the math the weight goes through the roof. I could use the 750

Feb 05, 2004, 02:40 AM	#1
MaHö Registered User Deutschland, BW, Friedrichshafen Joined Dec 2001 822 Posts	Turbo-Fan 4000 from Aero-Naut Look at this, sounds great! Big EDF!! A new Fan: http://www.aero-naut.de/aeronaut/de/allg/index.html?http://www.aero-naut.de/aeronaut/de/flugzubehoer/turbofan4000.htm Also new Dassault-Breguet Rafale C -Aramid-

Feb 05, 2004, 10:18 AM	#3
gkamysz Dieselized User Chicagoland Joined Feb 2000 6,799 Posts	So who will be the first to cry that this is a copy of the Schubeler? or was Daniel involved in the design of this fan? Greg
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Feb 06, 2004, 08:38 PM	#7
gkamysz Dieselized User Chicagoland Joined Feb 2000 6,799 Posts	It doesn't need a Pletti but Tango aren't that much cheaper. Based on the Tango 45-08 data the have on the site, it's turning 22,400RPM at 30V input and 45A. 45A is already the current limit of that motor. I don't know why the chart goes up to 55A. The fan still takes a lot of torque to turn. I don't think two pole motors will work in it. The larger Lehners might, if they fit. Greg
	Latest blog entry: A tiny diesel engine AE 0.1CC

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Feb 05, 2004, 07:28 AM	#2
Chris True Registered User St. Mary, Maryland, United States Joined Dec 1996 7,762 Posts	Sounds good, wonder when it will be available? Aeronaut generally releases info long before the products hit the shelves.

Feb 05, 2004, 01:57 PM	#5
James Frolik Long-Time Member Cologne, Germany Joined Dec 1996 2,335 Posts	That sure does look like it is a Schübeler make.

Feb 05, 2004, 09:03 PM	#6
hoser shut up & fly United States, FL, Miami Joined May 2001 3,787 Posts	I'm not crying, the only similarity is the CF material used. Nice to have a whole big EDF kit on the market that is not married to the HP hunk of gold motor.... which I'm still waiting for BTW. I'm getting this thing for sure after Florida jets and flying formation with Herb!

Feb 06, 2004, 09:06 PM	#8
hoser shut up & fly United States, FL, Miami Joined May 2001 3,787 Posts	you're right Greg ! just nice to have a full big edf kit... I'll put my HP 370 in it then

Feb 06, 2004, 11:53 PM	#9
Gordito Volador Flying Fatboy Tampa, FL Joined Apr 2003 1,291 Posts	Hey Hoser, If you need more room in your hanger, I can always look after your MIG-25 for you! Regards, Bill

Feb 07, 2004, 09:53 AM	#10
hoser shut up & fly United States, FL, Miami Joined May 2001 3,787 Posts	you're funny Bill but right ! I'll bring it to Fl jets and we will see

Feb 07, 2004, 10:28 AM	#11
Gordito Volador Flying Fatboy Tampa, FL Joined Apr 2003 1,291 Posts	Do I need to bring a power plant and servos so you can show me how to fly it? Regards, Bill

Feb 07, 2004, 10:51 AM	#12
captinnitro Registered User chicago Joined Jan 2004 384 Posts	Hi. does anyone have an idea on how much this fan will go for? I hope aeronaut's fan is not as ridiculously priced as schubeler. I can't believe that there isn't a fan out there that can put out 6 to 7 lb under $200. Wow, we can put a man on the moon, and a probe on mars, but we can't build a inexpensive powerful ducted fan...lol

Feb 07, 2004, 01:38 PM	#15
captinnitro Registered User chicago Joined Jan 2004 384 Posts	wow the 750! Now that's more like it! thanks herb!!! I have been trying to talk to locate you and chat with you. I have been told by few members that you are a guru when it comes to setting up the wemotech fans. I want to start a new project but having a hard time deciding witch is the best fan to use. I would like to build a multi fan jet like the b1b or b-58. but when I do the math the weight goes through the roof. I could use the 750