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Old Dec 08, 2013, 01:10 PM
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What is your range on that? Looks very nice but with the stock antenna I would imagine your signal gets blocked a bit from certain angles.
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 01:23 PM
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Deleted. To put all your minds and concerns at rest - I won't be doing anything like that again!!!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 01:23 PM
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So how significant is a modification (prop adapters, CF props) that ends up using 10% more amps and 15% more watts? How does that translate into real world battery times?
My question would be where is the extra power consumption coming from? Added rotating weight of the adapters? Also what does that do to performance? I saw a video on YouTube of stock side by side with carbon fiber/and adapters just take off, some hovering with ascent and decent and to my untrained eye the stock set up looked more responsive..my again untrained/uneducated presumption was the extra weight of the adapters was robbing some power. Thoughts?

So I guess what I'm wondering is what is the benefit of using blade adapters and CF blades if they are possibly less efficient(assumption)?
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 02:12 PM
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What is your range on that? Looks very nice but with the stock antenna I would imagine your signal gets blocked a bit from certain angles.
i don't know yet. I made this to replace the stock body after a crash. But since then i have a calibration problem. So i thought, it might be the carbon frame. Thats why i swapped the guts to a F330 frame. Unfortunately the problem remains. Still waiting for a solution.
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 02:22 PM
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 02:28 PM
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My question would be where is the extra power consumption coming from? Added rotating weight of the adapters? Also what does that do to performance? I saw a video on YouTube of stock side by side with carbon fiber/and adapters just take off, some hovering with ascent and decent and to my untrained eye the stock set up looked more responsive..my again untrained/uneducated presumption was the extra weight of the adapters was robbing some power. Thoughts?

So I guess what I'm wondering is what is the benefit of using blade adapters and CF blades if they are possibly less efficient(assumption)?
I think HH did a very good job in designing the stock (B) props and for all around performance, they're hard to beat. But if you're looking for best performance (speed, agility) or best smoothness (for video) there are other choices. Plus, individual flying styles may result in different opinions about the same setup.

One thing I've learned from my brief time in this hobby is that rc flyers are, by nature, inveterate tinkerers. It wouldn't surprise a bit to hear some were taking apart toaster ovens when they were 5 years old just to see how they worked.
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 02:44 PM
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My question would be where is the extra power consumption coming from? Added rotating weight of the adapters? Also what does that do to performance? I saw a video on YouTube of stock side by side with carbon fiber/and adapters just take off, some hovering with ascent and decent and to my untrained eye the stock set up looked more responsive..my again untrained/uneducated presumption was the extra weight of the adapters was robbing some power. Thoughts?

So I guess what I'm wondering is what is the benefit of using blade adapters and CF blades if they are possibly less efficient(assumption)?
My first thoughts are that the extra power consumption is coming from the blade style. Even though the carbon fiber blades are 8 x 4.5, the shape is different than the stock blades.

As far as the adapters adding rotating weight, this would be negligible. The force exerted on the motor from an 8" prop spinning and pushing air is huge compared to the few grams the adapters and props themselves add to the spinning motor.

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Old Dec 08, 2013, 02:54 PM
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Now that would be cool! It would be kind of like a Shelby Cobra (and probably close to the same price)!
It would also require moving the receiver and GPS antennas outside the body, bit for the extra strength it may well be worth it.
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 03:52 PM
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Hi all, Flew mine in Agility mode for the first time last week. I put on full throttle just to see how high it could go. It soared up to an almost imperceptible dot in the (cloudy) sky. So I thought I would test "Return To Home" from that height. So I pressed the lever and held.................and held................. and held................
I almost got brown trousers as it didn't appear to respond. I Let go of the lever and cut the throttle.......... still nothing! In desperation I pressed the lever again and kept holding it for what seemed ages. Then......... Whew! Is that dot getting bigger? Yes it is (big sigh of relief). When it got down enough it seemed to be heading for a clump of trees nearby so I let go of the RTH lever and landed it manually. When I checked the video I could hear the motor cut but it doesn't appear to be dropping, or perhaps it is because it was so high it makes it so much more difficult to tell?
Anyway, here is the video below for what it's worth. Notice how small Blackpool Tower looks in the distance! How high can this darn thing fly? The tower is 500ft high!

http://vimeo.com/81328986
Does this answer your question?


Outstanding video by the way....
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 04:04 PM
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Hi all, Flew mine in Agility mode for the first time last week. I put on full throttle just to see how high it could go. It soared up to an almost imperceptible dot in the (cloudy) sky. So I thought I would test "Return To Home" from that height. So I pressed the lever and held.................and held................. and held................
I almost got brown trousers as it didn't appear to respond. I Let go of the lever and cut the throttle.......... still nothing! In desperation I pressed the lever again and kept holding it for what seemed ages. Then......... Whew! Is that dot getting bigger? Yes it is (big sigh of relief). When it got down enough it seemed to be heading for a clump of trees nearby so I let go of the RTH lever and landed it manually. When I checked the video I could hear the motor cut but it doesn't appear to be dropping, or perhaps it is because it was so high it makes it so much more difficult to tell?
Anyway, here is the video below for what it's worth. Notice how small Blackpool Tower looks in the distance! How high can this darn thing fly? The tower is 500ft high!

http://vimeo.com/81328986
It will fly until it looses signal, which can be 1000 foot or more.

You might think about how heavy your 350qx is and what might happen if you have a malfunction when flying that high above your city.
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 04:05 PM
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Hi all, Flew mine in Agility mode for the first time last week. I put on full throttle just to see how high it could go. It soared up to an almost imperceptible dot in the (cloudy) sky. So I thought I would test "Return To Home" from that height. So I pressed the lever and held.................and held................. and held................
I almost got brown trousers as it didn't appear to respond. I Let go of the lever and cut the throttle.......... still nothing! In desperation I pressed the lever again and kept holding it for what seemed ages. Then......... Whew! Is that dot getting bigger? Yes it is (big sigh of relief). When it got down enough it seemed to be heading for a clump of trees nearby so I let go of the RTH lever and landed it manually. When I checked the video I could hear the motor cut but it doesn't appear to be dropping, or perhaps it is because it was so high it makes it so much more difficult to tell?
Anyway, here is the video below for what it's worth. Notice how small Blackpool Tower looks in the distance! How high can this darn thing fly? The tower is 500ft high!

http://vimeo.com/81328986
Brilliant! great to see somewhere I know so well, been visiting Blackpool regularly for over 54 years! Only concern is the close proximity of Blackpool Airport!
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 04:15 PM
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Brilliant! great to see somewhere I know so well, been visiting Blackpool regularly for over 54 years! Only concern is the close proximity of Blackpool Airport!

An airport is near too???

Is a quad possibility falling from a 800 foot or so into a populated city not a concern? If not it should be
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 04:31 PM
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I have been giving HH flack about stuff being out of stock. But some praise: I ordered a backordered frame and some other goodies yesterday. They went ahead and shipped the stuff that was in stock rather than holding it. Nice job HH!

This is why I continue to buy toys from you.
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 04:34 PM
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I don't want to jump on the safety police bandwagon so to speak but being someone who flies in real aircraft for a living I gotta say be careful..a blade 350 sucked into an intake could make for a very bad day. Especially important to think about around airports and military airfields where aircraft will be fairly low.
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 04:49 PM
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Does this answer your question?

No wai, I don't believe.

There should be much more snow in North America than that.
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