Wattage Crazy Max 3D

PunkerTFC · Nov 28, 2001, 07:46 PM

does anyone know anything about this plane? I just saw it in the Hobby People catalog, what do people know about this plane. Does anyone fly it?

Glenn Samonte · Nov 28, 2001, 09:29 PM

I back ordered one from hobby people and noticed there in stock today. but haven't received e-mail confirmation that the order has been shipped yet.

Dauntae · Nov 28, 2001, 10:17 PM

I asked pretty much the same question and got some good answers, In the thread there is a link to another thread with even more info so here is the link to my thread and it seems like the Crazy Max is one hot little plane.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...threadid=16917

Dauntae

Mike Greenshields · Nov 29, 2001, 12:21 PM

Yes! They are here. Arrived yesterday, were entered into our system last night, will start shipping and confirming today. All backorders should ship and confirm within the next 24-48 hours.

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

-Mike

GaryB · Nov 29, 2001, 03:03 PM

...Hobby People's ads claim 3D flying with this plane - give me a break!!!...

Gene Bond · Nov 29, 2001, 11:00 PM

Yipee! Too bad I just started another project.... Oh, well, There's always January!

GaryB: Not sure what you mean. Did you read the specs in the other thread? Sure sounds like a good possibility to me.

GaryB · Nov 30, 2001, 11:02 AM

...hey, i hope i'm wrong - i heard bad reports from others in our club about the original Mini Max...
...but even if it's much improved - 3D??? - torque rolls, waterfalls, elevators, Harriers, tail first touchdowns from a vertical hover??? - i remain skeptical - how are they defining 3D?

GaryB · Nov 30, 2001, 11:13 AM

...just have Mike Greenshields post a video demonstrating all the above maneuvers with the stock power setup - they'll have my order for one within the hour!...

...ps - i have built & flown Global kits (Tequila Sunrise & Free Style - and like them) - i'm just having a little trouble with the 3D claims for this plane...

Pierre Audette · Nov 30, 2001, 11:40 AM

Those spec's are close to my PSF, if that's a speed 300. I've been using a 9x6 with a 4:1 box. Vertical should be pretty good, as is top speed. Duration on 600AE is only a few minutes. I haven't tried hovering yet, which typically needs a big diameter prop with a small pitch. That 7.5x5 sounds small to me.

Mike Greenshields · Nov 30, 2001, 11:53 AM

The stock setup is a good all-around performance combination. Short takeoff, fun speed, good recovery, for the average park flyer pilot, this is a fun combination.

With a simple adaptor (or just a spacer and a couple of big washers) the plane can then handle the wide range of APC slow flyer props.

The gearbox is also our standard. It comes with the 3.67:1 ratio. However, it is possible to change ratios. We also offer a 4.25:1 ratio for the same gearbox. With this gear ratio, you can use the 9x6 slowflyer propeller. This gives slower top end but great hovering ability. We've also used the 8" prop with stock gear ratio.

So, the general theory is that we've produced a plane that when set up stock can take off and land from the average picinic table and be very aerobatic for the newer pilot (maybe 3rd or 4th plane). But in the hands of an expert, can be set up to really perform and also be customized to the personal flying tastes of the indiviudual pilot.

As for me flying it on video, I'm sure there are many other pilots who could put on a better show. Frankly, the engineer of the Crazy Max absolutely frightens me when he flies. The teeny-tiny area he flies it in with full deflection and full throttle is just scary. Reminds me of the IFO pilots doing flight demos at IMS. Never more than about 15 feet away from their face and never, ever actually level.

-Mike

GaryB · Nov 30, 2001, 12:37 PM

...thanks for the clarification - so really what we're talking about is a plane that with minor modifications, not stock, SHOULD be able to vertically hover - these mods would not make it fully 3D capable and able to perform all of the maneuvers listed above? - this is getting more believable...

Mike Greenshields · Nov 30, 2001, 12:54 PM

What I'm getting at is that it is really potent and very light when set up stock. Most people are going to find it really fun to fly before they even modify or change even one thing.

However, for the performance guru's out there, the prop change (and possibly a gear ratio change) is what it needs to make it do the hovering stuff.

It is simply a matter what you want it to do.

We've had several pattern flyers fly it bone stock and all were pretty impressed. That is one of the reasons we're so confident about it.

-Mike

GaryB · Nov 30, 2001, 01:01 PM

...you are very convincing - if it wasn't for the fact that i just got my Firecat going last weekend and i'm assembling my PB Mini Fun Flyer this weekend, i might go ahead and order one...but my son's been looking for another electric...

GaryB · Dec 05, 2001, 01:48 PM

...the Firecat is cool - the PB Fun Fly - only one flight so far in 15-18 MPH wind - not much fun...

...the Crazy Max 3D? i'm weakening - may have to have it, too - any flight reports to put me over the top?

Old Way · Dec 15, 2001, 04:16 PM

I flew my crazy max today, it has none of the flight characteristics of it's parent the mini-max, this plane indeed does rock! The wing on the crazy is amazingly strong, the motor is very powerful for
this plane, although the firewall still needs reinforcement. I used
the 800nimh packs and flew most of the 8 minutes at 3/4 throttle.
This plane has got to have the most smiles per dollar of any plane I have flown. I relax more learning aerobatics with this plane because if I stuff it I've only lost the price of a visit to the
Outback Steak House.

Nov 28, 2001, 07:46 PM	#1
PunkerTFC Old school newb Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Iraq Posts: 838	Wattage Crazy Max 3D does anyone know anything about this plane? I just saw it in the Hobby People catalog, what do people know about this plane. Does anyone fly it?

Nov 29, 2001, 12:21 PM	#4
Mike Greenshields Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA USA Posts: 416	Crazy Max has checked in Yes! They are here. Arrived yesterday, were entered into our system last night, will start shipping and confirming today. All backorders should ship and confirm within the next 24-48 hours. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. -Mike

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Nov 28, 2001, 09:29 PM	#2
Glenn Samonte Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: sacramento, ca. Posts: 94	I back ordered one from hobby people and noticed there in stock today. but haven't received e-mail confirmation that the order has been shipped yet.

Nov 28, 2001, 10:17 PM	#3
Dauntae Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: New Bedford, Ma. USA Posts: 1,299	I asked pretty much the same question and got some good answers, In the thread there is a link to another thread with even more info so here is the link to my thread and it seems like the Crazy Max is one hot little plane. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...threadid=16917 Dauntae

Nov 29, 2001, 03:03 PM	#5
GaryB Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Topeka Billard, Kansas, United States Posts: 561	...Hobby People's ads claim 3D flying with this plane - give me a break!!!...

Nov 29, 2001, 11:00 PM	#6
Gene Bond Crash Master Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,211	Yipee! Too bad I just started another project.... Oh, well, There's always January! GaryB: Not sure what you mean. Did you read the specs in the other thread? Sure sounds like a good possibility to me.

Nov 30, 2001, 11:02 AM	#7
GaryB Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Topeka Billard, Kansas, United States Posts: 561	...hey, i hope i'm wrong - i heard bad reports from others in our club about the original Mini Max... ...but even if it's much improved - 3D??? - torque rolls, waterfalls, elevators, Harriers, tail first touchdowns from a vertical hover??? - i remain skeptical - how are they defining 3D?

Nov 30, 2001, 11:13 AM	#8
GaryB Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Topeka Billard, Kansas, United States Posts: 561	...just have Mike Greenshields post a video demonstrating all the above maneuvers with the stock power setup - they'll have my order for one within the hour!... ...ps - i have built & flown Global kits (Tequila Sunrise & Free Style - and like them) - i'm just having a little trouble with the 3D claims for this plane...

Nov 30, 2001, 11:40 AM	#9
Pierre Audette RPV builder & operator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec, Canada Posts: 2,240	Those spec's are close to my PSF, if that's a speed 300. I've been using a 9x6 with a 4:1 box. Vertical should be pretty good, as is top speed. Duration on 600AE is only a few minutes. I haven't tried hovering yet, which typically needs a big diameter prop with a small pitch. That 7.5x5 sounds small to me.

Nov 30, 2001, 11:53 AM	#10
Mike Greenshields Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA USA Posts: 416	The stock setup is a good all-around performance combination. Short takeoff, fun speed, good recovery, for the average park flyer pilot, this is a fun combination. With a simple adaptor (or just a spacer and a couple of big washers) the plane can then handle the wide range of APC slow flyer props. The gearbox is also our standard. It comes with the 3.67:1 ratio. However, it is possible to change ratios. We also offer a 4.25:1 ratio for the same gearbox. With this gear ratio, you can use the 9x6 slowflyer propeller. This gives slower top end but great hovering ability. We've also used the 8" prop with stock gear ratio. So, the general theory is that we've produced a plane that when set up stock can take off and land from the average picinic table and be very aerobatic for the newer pilot (maybe 3rd or 4th plane). But in the hands of an expert, can be set up to really perform and also be customized to the personal flying tastes of the indiviudual pilot. As for me flying it on video, I'm sure there are many other pilots who could put on a better show. Frankly, the engineer of the Crazy Max absolutely frightens me when he flies. The teeny-tiny area he flies it in with full deflection and full throttle is just scary. Reminds me of the IFO pilots doing flight demos at IMS. Never more than about 15 feet away from their face and never, ever actually level. -Mike

Nov 30, 2001, 12:37 PM	#11
GaryB Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Topeka Billard, Kansas, United States Posts: 561	...thanks for the clarification - so really what we're talking about is a plane that with minor modifications, not stock, SHOULD be able to vertically hover - these mods would not make it fully 3D capable and able to perform all of the maneuvers listed above? - this is getting more believable...

Nov 30, 2001, 12:54 PM	#12
Mike Greenshields Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA USA Posts: 416	What I'm getting at is that it is really potent and very light when set up stock. Most people are going to find it really fun to fly before they even modify or change even one thing. However, for the performance guru's out there, the prop change (and possibly a gear ratio change) is what it needs to make it do the hovering stuff. It is simply a matter what you want it to do. We've had several pattern flyers fly it bone stock and all were pretty impressed. That is one of the reasons we're so confident about it. -Mike

Nov 30, 2001, 01:01 PM	#13
GaryB Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Topeka Billard, Kansas, United States Posts: 561	...you are very convincing - if it wasn't for the fact that i just got my Firecat going last weekend and i'm assembling my PB Mini Fun Flyer this weekend, i might go ahead and order one...but my son's been looking for another electric...

Dec 05, 2001, 01:48 PM	#14
GaryB Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Topeka Billard, Kansas, United States Posts: 561	...the Firecat is cool - the PB Fun Fly - only one flight so far in 15-18 MPH wind - not much fun... ...the Crazy Max 3D? i'm weakening - may have to have it, too - any flight reports to put me over the top?

Dec 15, 2001, 04:16 PM	#15
Old Way Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 37	I flew my crazy max today, it has none of the flight characteristics of it's parent the mini-max, this plane indeed does rock! The wing on the crazy is amazingly strong, the motor is very powerful for this plane, although the firewall still needs reinforcement. I used the 800nimh packs and flew most of the 8 minutes at 3/4 throttle. This plane has got to have the most smiles per dollar of any plane I have flown. I relax more learning aerobatics with this plane because if I stuff it I've only lost the price of a visit to the Outback Steak House.