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Old Mar 09, 2013, 08:15 AM
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Full carbon Nano (65x65mm) from the mold ??

Hello!!

I once said that I will not do smaller quad then DeX Micro....
but it seems that I lied

prototype is finished... only missing slots for motors(finished model will have 7mm carbon tube inserts in arms for 7mm motors)

My next step is to make a mold....and I have two options

-simple mold for a small number of copies
- or mold that will last for an unlimited number of cast...

the difference is in the cost/time of making the mold...

I know there are few people interested for this model, but i would like to know if there is "huge" interest in Nano...
or just a few extreme enthusiasts who love miniatures like me and can hardly wait for a new toy ??


about the DeX Nano...
well, it is small
65x65mm from shaft to side shaft
cover is 42mm, but opening will be smaller, about 38mm circle
model will have motor holders for 7mm motors (7mm inner diameter carbon tubes will be inserted in the arms)
weight... I think about 7-8g in full carbon fiber (calculation tells me less, about 6g, but I'll reinforce the cover hole and insert motor holders..)
glass fiber will be the same weight, but a bit weaker
two versions: full carbon, and full glass fiber model in color(transparent colors, it can light if LED inside)


I plan to make a mold very soon, so please, like or dislike...
any feedback is welcome and it will help me quickly decide which mold type, tnx!!

some pictures of the Nano prototype



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Old Mar 09, 2013, 08:34 AM
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cool!!...
so this will be the same size as Hubsan X4, but lighter.
Hubsan X4 hull is about 8.1 gr.
I'd like to order one full carbon Dex Nano. What is the price point?
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 12:29 PM
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I think a lot of potential interest depends on the price point. many of the people here are drawn to the mini/micro RTF brushed quads because they offer great performance and durability at an affordable price.

that being said, even though I'm a 'carbon fiber whore' as much as the next guy, I like the idea of a cheaper fiberglass model (even if a little weaker, but priced more aggressively). especially in transparent colors that can be illuminated from the inside, very cool!

also, how would the receiver board be mounted inside the frame?

regardless, that prototype frame is a beauty and I look forward to seeing the Dex nano airborne!
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 12:31 PM
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I want at least 1. Can the lid press on/in like a Tupperware, or a paper cup lid?

I imagine there is a lot of room inside for fpv gear as well not to mention you can crash this thing into almost anything and not have to worry too much about any catastrophic damage, to either the quad or your big screen tv.
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 01:21 PM
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cool!!...
so this will be the same size as Hubsan X4, but lighter.
Hubsan X4 hull is about 8.1 gr.
I'd like to order one full carbon Dex Nano. What is the price point?
tnx for cool!!

I think that Nano is slightly larger than Hubsan....but my Hubsan had not arrived yet so I can not be sure
I'll make a comparison when my Hubsan arrives...

the final price has not yet been formed... I guess somewhere in 30/35e range, glass/carbon
but I have to make a few models first to know that...



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I think a lot of potential interest depends on the price point. many of the people here are drawn to the mini/micro RTF brushed quads because they offer great performance and durability at an affordable price.

that being said, even though I'm a 'carbon fiber whore' as much as the next guy, I like the idea of a cheaper fiberglass model (even if a little weaker, but priced more aggressively). especially in transparent colors that can be illuminated from the inside, very cool!

also, how would the receiver board be mounted inside the frame?

regardless, that prototype frame is a beauty and I look forward to seeing the Dex nano airborne!
yes, I'm aware of price problem for a composite model of this size
because of this I have a dilemma about mold type

for models of this size there is no difference in the cost of material... only carbon model is a little more problematic to make

about receiver board I haven't yet worked out idea (I'm waiting for Hubson to arrive)
but I think I'll go with the "soft approach" with some sponges as in all the models so far... because it will keep electronics and battery safe


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I want at least 1. Can the lid press on/in like a Tupperware, or a paper cup lid?

I imagine there is a lot of room inside for fpv gear as well not to mention you can crash this thing into almost anything and not have to worry too much about any catastrophic damage, to either the quad or your big screen tv.
Unfortunately, the cover will not be able to press on like that...I'll use a transparent or black tape
I also can see myself in a situation to crash some screens
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 01:49 PM
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The cool thing

This frame can really be used for any copter that goes together like the hubsan. I understand that many other quads are put together the same way, so the applications are endless as long as the electronics fit in the hull. Don't limit yourself to hubsan guys only.

For the record, a hubsan x4 EA4000362 is 30mm x 20mm. If you can fit 2 1s batteries inside the model, the hubsan will fit perfectly.
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 04:55 PM
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Wow, that's a pretty Awesome little hull Denis.... emphasis on little!

It would make for a pretty wicked Nano Ladybird v.1, (what I will strip and build it with) but it's going to be even smaller than a stock Ladybird@ 90mm motor-to-motor, and I wonder how that will affect it's flying and acro. performance?

I'm in for one of course, as it will be company to it's bigger brother the Micro.
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 08:35 PM
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If you are looking for a U.S dealer I might be interested in distributing them in the U.S.
I like the DeXX micro also
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Old Mar 10, 2013, 08:04 AM
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If it adds durability, I'm in for putting my X4 stuff in it.
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Old Mar 10, 2013, 11:01 AM
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Very nice! I'd like to have one of each Denis! Carbon/plastic.

Can't wait to get it in my hands!

Cheers
Ayo

Edit..I think you should make a permanent mold after testing it.

Fact: we all like micros..we all fly em..we all crash em at some point...gives us an excuse to not just let it rot specially if its laying around cuz of a broken frame. Get one of your frames put everything on to that..And voila! In the air again, stronger more durable.

The transparent would be cool for led..(no more traffic lost at night flights) carbon is just sexy and just must be had..hence why Id probably get one of each...
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Old Mar 10, 2013, 11:53 AM
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I see that people can not wait .... so I guess both

first mold will be completed in a day or two...
permanent mold(s) will be over in about ten days

@ Z06 Tony...
I think it will be feasible with nano, micro maybe...
with mini and 50cm quad I have a problem with a production capacity so it is difficult to supply big ones..
but for the nano, I hope that this will not be the problem
I'll see as soon as I make a few casts
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Old Mar 10, 2013, 12:06 PM
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Hi Denis,
Just wondering, I'm running lady bird props on my x4.

They measure in length around 55 mm....you said motor to motor its 65 .. The blades would not graze each other right?

Ayo

Ps-lady bird props n x4 props roughly the same size.
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Old Mar 10, 2013, 12:17 PM
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Hi Denis,
Just wondering, I'm running lady bird props on my x4.

They measure in length around 55 mm....you said motor to motor its 65 .. The blades would not graze each other right?

Ayo

Ps-lady bird props n x4 props roughly the same size.
yes, there will be a gap of 10mm between the props
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Old Mar 10, 2013, 12:19 PM
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Dexx said "65x65mm from shaft to side shaft". That's exactly the size of Hubsan X4. The blades should not touch each other.
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Old Mar 10, 2013, 12:30 PM
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Dexx said "65x65mm from shaft to side shaft". That's exactly the size of Hubsan X4. The blades should not touch each other.
cmiiw
Hubsan is 60x 60mm or 65x65mm ?
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