|Feb 28, 2013, 02:52 PM|
E2's scale heli projects
This is one that was "years in the making" so to speak guys, but I think I am finally fitted with the right tools to tackle this challenge! (at least I truly hope so , as it would be a painfully costly learning experience ... .)
Anyway, this thread is gonna be about the different scale helis I intend to build over time (oh well, or at least the fuses for them ... ...)
The "AS350 Ecureuil"
|Feb 28, 2013, 03:08 PM|
This is going to be the first scale body EVER that I am trying my hands on in a "complete" kit that "requires assembly ... AND painting!!!
So, I ordered this kit from Heli-Scale-Quality in Germany, and they set the bar for themselves pretty high! All the fuses you can buy there are EXACT scale, in 1:35, 1:48 or 1:72 - and just recently also in 1:24. Bernd and his team at heli scale are venturing into larger sizes than "MICROs ONLY"
The kit that I bought is the AS350 Ecureuil ... and for me, this heli/fuse actually has a story - a history, all the way back into my teens, when RC helis was something for "absolute pros" who had already gone through every other type of radiocontroled object under the sun ... and who were able to drop some serious dough for this (the Ecureuil I was DREAMING of was a nitro powered (Robbe) monster with about 5 feet rotor diameter ... so I guess that would be 700class. Of course, I had never even tried to drive an RC car, so this heli would have DEFINITELY been one heck of an experience !!! - Of course, it (thankfully how I know now) it STAYED a dream ... or it would have been a case of "how to cause thousands of material ... and probably worse PHYSICAL ... damage in a matter of seconds without even leaving the ground ...)
As I said, the Heli Scale Quality kits are expensive - and to find out how well they are worth the cash you gotta drop is the objective of this first scale heli project.
(Whenever I can, I would like to include some video into this adventure of mine, so hopefully I manage to stick to this plan)
Otherwise, there will be many many photos ... as usual
To get started, I got the package from Heli-Scale-Quality (which I will just call HSQ now, as this is really a complicated name to fully spell out ...) let me "do some UNBOXING"!
|Feb 28, 2013, 03:52 PM|
Heli-Scale-Quality AS350 Ecureuil
As I mentioned, I had the package from HSQ in the mail yesterday night, and the trip over the pond from Germany took a mere 6days!!! (speaking of slow boat someone?? .)
Unfortunately, the package got hit quite a bit during the trip, which clearly shows in the condition of the box ...
Thankfully, due to the nature of the content, everything appeared to be just fine upon inspection when taking it ouf of the box.
This is WHAT I ordered:
As you can see (and as I already mentioned) the price is pretty steep - but the kits aim to be the top of the line in quality and detail ... and it looks like they can deliver (more in a moment)
[the kit is (at least) 32Euros [roughly 42$] and incurs a shipping charge of 9.90Euros [roughly 13$] - so a total of 55$ for an UNassembled and UNpainted fuse is some serious money!!!]
We shall see if the result is worth the cost ... AND the effort (.)
So let's see what was in the (rather scary looking) box:
after some "digging around" in the generously stuffed (with old newspaper) box if found the following items:
This already hints at the aim of "standing out of the crowd" as I havent heard of too many other manufacturers who supply you with a picture CD (ie the effort that is put into those kits is surely above average ... than again however, so is the price)
[I will get a chance to compare this to a kit from another manufacturer (that was MUCH more affordable) rather soon ...)
The first impression of this kit is VERY positive, the attention to detail is stunning - in such a small fuse (it is only 8.75" long) even the screws&rivets in the heli surface are visible ...
|Feb 28, 2013, 10:30 PM|
I just checked out the CD - and it contains about 150 pictures of AS350 helis, often several of the same one, so you can really take a good look at them and also get some "paint job ideas" (my two ideas however were NOT included ...)
It also contains a 24page pdf assembly instruction (still in German, but I am going to change this ... ...), a list of colors needed for the paint job from the assembly instructions and also a list of all tools and other stuff that might be needed during the build.
All in all a nice piece of data that is not often seen to be included in a kit like this
(the comparison to another kit which was much less expensive will be up soon as well ... just give me a couple of weeks ...)
|Mar 08, 2013, 11:58 AM|
Another great blog erd! Got my eye on it
I'm a little disappointed with the current state of scale micro heli options. Here we are with these great micro heli mechanics, yet when it comes to scale there's only really handful of 'sort of' scale options to choose from, or static plastic kit bashing. The Heli-Scale-Quality kits appear to be the best you can buy but I'd like to see better. There's only so much you can do with vacuum formed parts.
I've done some experimenting of my own. Starting with a 1:48 scale Huey Hog plastic model kit, first I made latex moulds of the original plastic parts. Then from the moulds I re-create the plastic parts using tissue and glue. The first picture is a tissue re-production. I should have stuck my thumb in to show how truly small it is (The moulded piece is approx 8" tip to tip). The detail is absolutely perfect, down to the rivets and vent mesh. Or at least as perfect as the plastic kit was. Now that I'm examining parts under a magnifying glass I'm finding the plastic kits can be a little sloppy.
The final part came in ad 2.9 grams vs the original plastic part that was 5.15 grams. I can make it alot lighter too!
I've also been messing with getting rid of the can motor sticking out the tail. I came up with a shaft drive tail using micro LOSI car differential gears to make an angle drive out of the original tail motor mount. Topped it off with a Huey scale tail rotor made from flat carbon fibre. I wish I had more pictures of the completed tail rotor (properly painted) and not just the test rotor (which was a standard tail prop with blade 'extension' made of tape).
The shaft drive tail works great! I was testing it with my mSRx and it's a straight plug in. It had a limited life. The tail rotor is delicate and didn't take kindly to crashing and there's no bearings (or bushings) to speak of in the tail gear box, so things got sloppy and I started losing mesh. But when it did work it was smooth as butter. I've got a good selection of micro bearings for the next attempt, and I've been working on ways to mould my own micro bevel gears to make a solid repeatable gear box.
The trick is to get the tail angle. So many of the best helicopter subjects involve a bend in the tail that makes a straight shaft drive tail impossible. I have some ideas on that, but nothing I've tried yet. A straight shaft tail would be fine for your AS350 Ecureuil project.
Can you tell I've been holding this in too long
|Mar 26, 2013, 08:54 PM|
Oh, and I got this FBL80, which I really should get flying - it is actually smaller than the Blade nanoCPX
So long story short ... scale project went a little down the priority list ...
|Jul 03, 2013, 08:45 PM|
but the status is still unchanged (whats even worse, I also got a screaming Mimi in this size that I have not even taken out of the box yet - its always the same ...
|Jul 03, 2013, 08:58 PM|
Send me the dimensions and I'll make you a plug and play bevel gear box tail boom to fit your scale body that replaces the can in the tail with a true scale tail rotor.
I've got all the parts, but like you they're sitting around collecting dust instead of getting built and tested. Maybe this will get both our projects moving again.
|Nov 24, 2014, 11:12 PM|
Another scale project (from waaaaay on the back burner)
I cant believe I havent posted here in almost 1and a half years ...
Anyway, just to revive this one, I had another scale project (as the title says " waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay on the back burner") ... or to be exact from my V911 Novice times ....
I wanted to put the V911 in an MD500 fuse. In the course of the last ... more than TWO years however, this "project" kind of disappeared into who knows what.
A LOT ... and I really mean A LOT has happened in the micro heli "department" since then, and one thing that slowly became clearer and clearer is that the V911 is NOT really the ideal heli to put into the "existing" (ie Bravo SX) MD500 fuses after all.
In the mean time there are other models that ... at least to ME ... seem considerably more suitable for various reasons!!!
good thing is, ALL of them are actually based on the same (or almost identical anyway) frame, so the "space requirements" are the same for all of them also
And all of a sudden the "long lost" MD500 scale project is all alive and well again ...
|Nov 24, 2014, 11:26 PM|
"BACK from the dead": the MD500 scale project
after so much "introduction" now some "information"
Several days ago, I "revisited" my MD500 scale "idea" and based on the "flying" I have done over the last two years, I decided that I would "revive" this project and try to fit a HiSky HFP80 V2 into the Bravo SX MD500 fuse!!
As it turned out, this bird will fit much better in there than the originally intended V911.
Also, once it turns out that the HFP80 is actually a little "weak on the chest" (as the directly translated german idiom would suggest) it will be rater "un-complicated" to exchange it against a HCP80 or maybe even HCP80 V2 [with the 6axis stabi system] - which should eventually "fly like a dream" ... for now however still to be verified.
Anyway, my scale project is slowly beginning to "take shape"
I ordered a few f the BravoSX fuses on special (inclucing the MD500 typical skids!!).
It took a while and cost me 2 HFP skids to figure out HOW this would actually have to go ... and i will post the pictures once I get to that stage of the project.
For now it is more the paint part that I am devoting some time to:
(I am actually NOT the biggest fan of military helis - for the most part anyway, with ONE particular exception, but THAT is the subject of quite a different scale project ...)
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