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Old Feb 21, 2013, 05:46 AM
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I am struggling with building the Explorer 60L "ARF" by Nitroplanes. The instructions are very sparse, to say the least, and the fit and finish leaves a lot to be desired.

Like the original poster, I had to cut away a signficicant amount of covering and wood material to get the stabilizer and rudder pushrod tubes to be functional.

Based on some earlier Explorer threads, I have made some modifications to the landing gear to strengthen and move further towards the back. The landing gear as designed are too far front, and the plane drags its tail (it has tricycle gear). I have also reinforced every seam and joint I can find.

I am going to complete it and fly the plane, but compared with other ARFs I have built from Eflight and Hangar 9, there is no comparison in quality. But I am stacking this up as a learning experience as I am still a newbie to rc planes.

On a positive note though, I will say the covering job is quite good with no wrinkles or seams.
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Old Feb 21, 2013, 09:12 AM
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On a positive note though, I will say the covering job is quite good with no wrinkles or seams.
Kind of like lipstick on a pig. It may be a pretty pig, but it's still a pig.......

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Old Feb 21, 2013, 09:29 AM
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The nitro models are cheap, you have to know going in you get what you pay for.
I buy nitroplanes (CMP models) when they go on sale. Right now I am putting a Spitfire together that was $150, Throw the gear away and enjoy the project.
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Old Feb 22, 2013, 11:37 AM
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I'm not defending nitro but every plane I have gotten from them they send a book with all the models from that manufacture since all they do is reship the package, you should have kept the paper work that came with it
Sorry Jeff, no book came with this kit and no manual either, I had to find it online
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Old Feb 24, 2013, 02:32 PM
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Tucanos are heavy wing loading planes (30-32 oz per square foot for the SeaGull version). This makes it a worse risk to buy from an unknown manufacturer. But sorry that the ARF was poorly made. And Nitroplanes has seemed to be out of almost all stock for at least 6 months. I can't see them surviving, unless they are selling cars.

Do you have you mind set on a Tucano, or would you consider something else?
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Old Feb 24, 2013, 04:29 PM
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I love the looks of the tucano, I have owned 3 tucanos so far that ran with nitro. a fiberglass that came from Brasil, the red scheme phoenix 60' and the blue scheme from nitroplanes. I like the look of the blue scheme one but it didn't hold together very good. I sold it right away. my next tucano will be with the brazilian blue and green scheme. not sure who sells them yet, I would also like to get involved in building one made from Don Smith, if anyone have this plan of suggestions? thanks
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Old Feb 24, 2013, 06:17 PM
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I've noticed that too, Nitroplanes needs to change their name to electriconlyplanes as they don't have any nitro planes to sell, maybe it's for the best that they pass into history.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 08:42 AM
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Tucanos are heavy wing loading planes (30-32 oz per square foot for the SeaGull version). This makes it a worse risk to buy from an unknown manufacturer. But sorry that the ARF was poorly made. And Nitroplanes has seemed to be out of almost all stock for at least 6 months. I can't see them surviving, unless they are selling cars.

Do you have you mind set on a Tucano, or would you consider something else?
It's kind of mind boggling, the fuse is a work of art, ie, the panel lines, the finish, the detail, then they start dropping the ball, stab tubes are way out of line, no plan for the canopy attachment (it has to be removed for assembly at the field), hinge holes way off center, ALL formers needed regluing. the plane is a beauty, don't get me wrong, but the stab problem was a big problem and to make it worse was the customer service guy more or less telling me, "hey it's your problem now.
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 02:29 PM
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A sbach 48" great flying plane, a hawksky, just fun and easy,a sonic 185,great power glider well built, a diamond 2500 power glider,excellent quality build, esc went out in sonic 185 and they replaced it no problems, motor went on hawksky after 3 flights,they replaced it no problem. My experience with nitroPlanes
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Old Feb 25, 2013, 04:54 PM
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A sbach 48" great flying plane, a hawksky, just fun and easy,a sonic 185,great power glider well built, a diamond 2500 power glider,excellent quality build, esc went out in sonic 185 and they replaced it no problems, motor went on hawksky after 3 flights,they replaced it no problem. My experience with nitroPlanes
You are Incredibly lucky. Or an employee.
My experience with nitroplanes quality and customer service is the same as most peoples. It is very bad quality and nonexistant service. That is why I do not buy from them anymore. I learned.
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Old Feb 26, 2013, 07:56 AM
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The seller will always take the heat...if you buy a Ford and and the speedometer quits the day after the warrenty expires do you blame Ford or xyz speedometer company that made the speedometer. the seller is responsible for the product for this very reason.
If you have never been to the WRAM show go.....I went in 05 when I lived in Fredericksburg, It is worth the trip and if nitro planes is there you can talk to them and even tell them they're rep in the US is not very good....
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Old Feb 26, 2013, 05:55 PM
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Does anyone know where I can find a really cheap dentist?
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Old Feb 26, 2013, 07:45 PM
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Does anyone know where I can find a really cheap dentist?
I thought I saw one at www.nitroplanes.com/dentalstuff. But he is currently "out of stock" like all their stuff.
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Old Feb 26, 2013, 08:19 PM
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Try this site. its a 60 size with a blue scheme ans i think they ship to the U.S. I have also purchased a 90 size tucano from nitroplanes and wasn't too happy with how the wings and tail attached to the fuselage.
http://www.rc711.com/shop/tucano-60-...it-p-4215.html
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Old Apr 25, 2013, 09:11 PM
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Sorry Jeff, no book came with this kit and no manual either, I had to find it online
I know this is an old thread, but where did you find the manual exactly? I looked all day but couldnt find one. The Tucano I'm interested in appears to be the same plane with different paint scheme, so I figure the build method would be the same. Sounds like these are not true ARFs as some crafting has to be done. General Hobby has the one I'm interested in but they have no manula on their site:
http://www.generalhobby.com/tucano-n...ack-p-421.html
Also, did you finish the plane? How did it fly? I'm trying to gather info on this thing before I pull the trigger, if I pull the trigger. Thanks.
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