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Old Feb 15, 2013, 02:07 PM
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The gimbal, which will be called the AG400-TL, is basically a variant that we are currently testing, that is based on elements of our larger AG600 gimbal.
Ah! You make the askman gimbals. I thought that belt setup looked familiar. I've actually been looking at the AG600 for my F550, but I thought it might be a bit big for just a GoPro. Good to know you're coming out with a smaller version.

Thanks for the response.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 04:41 PM
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I work in real estate and I'm looking for something relatively cheap and easy to fly that I can get aerial video of houses with. Does this hover smoothly? I don't need to do any fancy flying, just the basics.
I've used it for multiple real estate jobs with no problems. It hovers very smoothly, and you can use the GPS mode to keep it in one spot if you want. If it's really windy you're going to get blown all over the place, but it does fine in low-moderate wind.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 04:53 PM
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I think it'd look better pulling that out for semi-pro work as compared to the Phantom.
Do you really think your Client has a clue of what would "LOOK" the best....? After all, the Finished shot is what you are selling...NOT the machine that takes it.....!
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:27 PM
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I've used it for multiple real estate jobs with no problems. It hovers very smoothly, and you can use the GPS mode to keep it in one spot if you want. If it's really windy you're going to get blown all over the place, but it does fine in low-moderate wind.
Is it hard to fly in wind or is the video just really shaky?
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:32 PM
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I havent flown one but have seen one at a local store. Judging by the size, its very small, I would expect it to struggle to fly well in the wind.
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Is it hard to fly in wind or is the video just really shaky?
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:23 PM
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Do you really think your Client has a clue of what would "LOOK" the best....? After all, the Finished shot is what you are selling...NOT the machine that takes it.....!
Yes I do believe the look of equipments is important. Try doing photo shoots with a cell phone or a point and shoot camera. Same concept. If they think it looks like a toy, they'll think little of you.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 09:44 PM
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Is it hard to fly in wind or is the video just really shaky?
Just shaky. I've flown it in pretty strong wind and it flies fine but the footage takes a lot of work to stabilize.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 04:05 PM
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For that shot I was shooting 1080p/60fps
Do you have to black edition? Why not use 2.7k?
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 05:52 PM
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...are you really this angry, or just trolling?
I was partly trolling and partly expressing my dislike for DJI and their fanboy base for pitching their plastic, overpriced crap as "professional".

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Go Pro and whatever term is the video equivalent of photoshop. All the praises are in the camera and post processing software, nothing on the Phantom itself. If the thread was about quads being able to generally create acceptable videos, i've got no problem with that, i've watched enough FPV videos to see what they can do. But when you single out the Phantom and declare it as a professional quality, you need something to back it up. What is it about the Phantom that deserves this thread? Four pages later and there's nothing so far.
I think that's the smartest thing in this thread.

I've seen people win photo competitions with pictures taken with compact cameras. And yet, they don't go around claiming that "The Canon G9 is a professional tool".
The OP and topic of this thread reek of fanboyism.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 05:57 PM
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I'm sure others have addressed this, but just a few short years ago Hi-8 was considered "almost broadcast quality" and when DV first came out, folks were dancing in the streets and some claimed it was in the realm of broadcast quality.

MANY people today are watching videos at low def - on smartphones, etc.
Many millions still have older TV's or use streaming services which are nowhere near the resolution of a DSLR video.

Would a hollywood movie use a GoPro and Phantom for their scenes? If that's what the line is, then the answer is obviously that it is not pro.

But if we used the measurement against all of the video shot in the last 30 years averaged, you'd come up with a different story.

I remember writing and producing a pro video in the easily 90's - back then it was about $1,000 a minute for filming and editing a low-end promo video which went onto VHS. They used Betamax, which has about 350480.

In short, used properly the Phantom could surely produce video and possibly stills (with a different cam?) which could be used "professionally " (i.e. be worth money to the end user) in situations such as Real Estate, etc.

But, yeah, it's not hollywood nor HBO ready.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 06:27 PM
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actually, I do the manufacturing and while the design is combined effort between gary and myself AG askman(andrey) and Gary

back to the topic. Professional is person not the gear. I can tell you that accomplished person can do really good stuff with non stablized gimbal.

this video was done using f450 and fixed isolation mount like one we have for phantom. (from one of our customer) no stabilization.

Imagine and Do - A Tricking/Copter Short Clip (1 min 4 sec)
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 07:02 PM
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What cam was that shot with Andrey?
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 07:10 PM
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it was shot with gopro and f450 with isolation mount. basically same as phantom but bit bigger. it was done with fpv instead of LOS flying.

What good gear does, is increase your success rate and envelope that you can make the shot. but it is still the person behind the shot that matters. Also, it has been my contention that using lousy gimbal is worse than no gimbal. practice, practice practice.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 07:13 PM
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Thanks.

It would seem to confirm the thought that a Phantom equipped with a GoPro or similar type cam can produce professional quality video.

Of course there are a bunch of variables that dictate the result.

Not certain how anyone can argue with that.
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