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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:30 PM
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....Hence they attribute any misgivings or frustrations to having flown too close to the sun, which, in turn, melted their wings and caused their model to crash to the ground.
'Brown out' seems to be the most popular lame excuse for crashing these days. Strangely these 'brown-out's' seem to disproportionately happen to inexperienced flyers and most often on the final turn on landing approach
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:38 PM
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Not only do they misdiagnose the problem, but then they usually attribute the "brown out" to a faulty receiver. I have even seen a case where a guy claimed that the TRANSMITTER caused it!
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 02:55 PM
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Often it is not pilot error. It may be due to an overstressed component or even servos installed backward. Can't blame that on the pilot.
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 03:01 PM
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Indeed, but no one actually claimed it to be anything other than 'personal experience'. Having said that I've been flying RC since the early 70's so statistically it's highly likely that my personal experience is a 'representative sample' of the whole
I'm not debating with you, I'm using your comment as a springboard to more humor. At least, I thought it was funny. Dumb thumbs cause most of my crashes. I can only point out 3 in my 40+ years of modeling that were definitely NOT thumb (or wrist, from my C/L days) related.

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Old Feb 16, 2013, 03:02 PM
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Often it is not pilot error. It may be due to an overstressed component or even servos installed backward. Can't blame that on the pilot.
You can if he's also the Crew Chief!

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Old Feb 16, 2013, 03:07 PM
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Often it is not pilot error. It may be due to an overstressed component or even servos installed backward. Can't blame that on the pilot.
In my case the component that's overstressed usually is the pilot .

But it's true that not all crashes are pilot error. Some of them are midairs and as everyone knows they're caused by "the other pilot's error" .

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Old Feb 16, 2013, 06:29 PM
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It may be due to...servos installed backward. Can't blame that on the pilot.
You can if it was the pilot who installed the servos, or if the pilot did not perform a proper preflight check before takeoff.

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Old Feb 18, 2013, 01:34 PM
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You can if it was the pilot who installed the servos, or if the pilot did not perform a proper preflight check before takeoff.

Larry
Done that...

Now, just like when I was flying full size aircraft, I say my pre-flight checks out loud.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 01:48 PM
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That always pays off... and check the aileron throw from the rear of the plane!
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Old Mar 09, 2013, 01:19 PM
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myth # 123

A motor must be warmed up prior to pylon racing, aerobatics, and 3D.
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