Adding ailerons

Hello,
Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane.
It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine.
By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add
ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using
barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing.

My question is: Will this work?
Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or
websites about this subject?

greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten

I did a similar thing to a .40-size (60" span) parasol wing tainer and
hinged the ailerons at the top edge. This gave me the same effect as
differential ailerons. There was no sign of adverse yaw when we flew
it. It surprised the test pilot.

Bruce Bretschneider

Joostt wrote:

> Hello,
> Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane.
> It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine.
> By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add
> ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using
> barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing.
>
> My question is: Will this work?
> Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or
> websites about this subject?
>
> greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten
>

I did a similar thing to a .40-size (60" span) parasol wing tainer and
hinged the ailerons at the top edge. This gave me the same effect as
differential ailerons. There was no sign of adverse yaw when we flew
it. It surprised the test pilot.

Bruce Bretschneider

Joostt wrote:

> Hello,
> Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane.
> It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine.
> By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add
> ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using
> barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing.
>
> My question is: Will this work?
> Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or
> websites about this subject?
>
> greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten
>

"Bruce Bretschneider" <brucebr1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FEDBB06.70109@cox.net...
> I did a similar thing to a .40-size (60" span) parasol wing tainer and
> hinged the ailerons at the top edge. This gave me the same effect as
> differential ailerons. There was no sign of adverse yaw when we flew
> it. It surprised the test pilot.
>
> Bruce Bretschneider
>
> Joostt wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane.
> > It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine.
> > By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add
> > ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using
> > barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing.
> >
> > My question is: Will this work?
> > Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or
> > websites about this subject?
> >
> > greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten
> >
>

I did exactly the same thing on a 3 channel Aeronca Champ trainer some years
ago. You should be fine.

"Bruce Bretschneider" <brucebr1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FEDBB06.70109@cox.net...
> I did a similar thing to a .40-size (60" span) parasol wing tainer and
> hinged the ailerons at the top edge. This gave me the same effect as
> differential ailerons. There was no sign of adverse yaw when we flew
> it. It surprised the test pilot.
>
> Bruce Bretschneider
>
> Joostt wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Some time ago i bought a plan from vth.de for a trainer like plane.
> > It's a one meter wingspan plane with a speed 400 direct drive engine.
> > By now i have finished the fuselage and rudder. I'm planning to add
> > ailerons. My plan is to get rid of half the dihedral and using
> > barn-door type ailerons from about 12% of the wing.
> >
> > My question is: Will this work?
> > Does anybody have any recommendations or tips or
> > websites about this subject?
> >
> > greetz and thanks from Holland, Joost van Asten
> >
>

I did exactly the same thing on a 3 channel Aeronca Champ trainer some years
ago. You should be fine.

"strathboy" <strathboy89@xpdoshus.com> wrote in message news:<vvgvckrrmpu992@corp.supernews.com>...
The only
> way to make a safe turn is with co-ordinated rudder and aileron and NOT one
> or the other. Aileron or rudder only turns are "skids" and are prone to
> spins at slow speed.

An aileron-only turn is a slip, the opposite of a skid, and is safe
but inefficient flight.

Dan

Dan Thomas wrote:
> "strathboy" <strathboy89@xpdoshus.com> wrote in message news:<vvgvckrrmpu992@corp.supernews.com>...
> The only
>
>>way to make a safe turn is with co-ordinated rudder and aileron and NOT one
>>or the other. Aileron or rudder only turns are "skids" and are prone to
>>spins at slow speed.
>
>
> An aileron-only turn is a slip, the opposite of a skid, and is safe
> but inefficient flight.
>
> Dan


Don't forget to feed a little elevator in to keep the nose from dropping
and going into a spiral.

RCFlyr sed that!!!
d:^)

> >somthing,just tell me what i missing here.
>
> You are not missing anything.
> It'a easier to build strip ailerons. Doesn't take as long or as much skill to
> build as barn door ailerons. Just build a wing and add on the ailerons.
>

Easier to build, and less adverse yaw. On certain airplanes barn door
ailerons require the use of coordinated turns, where you use the rudder
with the ailerons.