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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:00 PM
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What's so hard about removing a few stitches? Ain't nothing to a grizzled old puck.
Oh, I may have said that wrong....Stitches on my wife that is, I'd pass out if they were on me
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:02 PM
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The actual alignment, especially after a tierod replacement, isn't a scam. A redneck alignment may be good enough to get you to the alignment shop, but as was mentioned, if you spent any significant amount of money on your tires, it's well worth it.

FWIW, I think 94 Impalas handle like a boat, even after they are properly aligned.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:02 PM
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^ See? I rest my case. Easier to pull stitches. Maybe even easier to put in stitches.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:06 PM
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The actual alignment, especially after a tierod replacement, isn't a scam. A redneck alignment may be good enough to get you to the alignment shop, but as was mentioned, if you spent any significant amount of money on your tires, it's well worth it.

FWIW, I think 94 Impalas handle like a boat, even after they are properly aligned.
I will be doing my balljoints at home one side per day. I will rough it in with a tape measure, but the first stop is the alignment rack... Tires went up in price a bunch over the last 2 years.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:13 PM
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Oh, I may have said that wrong....Stitches on my wife that is, I'd pass out if they were on me
I've removed stitches on my person a bunch of times, but like I say, I'm an old-time puck and have had lots of stitches over the years. It grossed the wife out when I did it, but hey, she knew she what she was marrying and liked the physique I had.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:15 PM
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Yep, and they find stuff on every subsequent alignment too. That said, if you do find a shop you trust, alignments are worth what you pay.
^^^THIS^^^

Of course finding the shop you can trust is a huge hurdle.

Bought tires from Sears, so I figured I'd get it aligned too - usually not an issue. Took it out and it pulled left, took it back to the shop to fix it, got it back, and it still pulled left. Took it back and it pulled right - in fact, I could complete a turn, albeit quite wide, in the empty parking lot next to the store. I ended up demanding and getting a refund and took the vehicle to an actual shop where they got it right the first time.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:22 PM
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I have only had sticthes once...

I was rebuilding a Toyota 5 speed for a truck... A trans they made only 2 years so they had me do the rebuild in house. One operation takes 3 hands but no one was loose so I figured I would use high temp bearing grease to hold a part for a bit while working with getting the main and cluster shafts in place... the gear I had the grease holding was sharpend a bit from wear but it was a reverse gear and still very servicable.... it slid down and got me 5 stitches worth...

4 hour wait in the ER for the right thumb...

On returning to the shop I was given the new guy as a pair of hands and talked him through the assembly...

I hate stitches, it worse then the getting the darned cut.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:26 PM
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as a mechanic I def would get an alignment. without, your tires and all those party you are going to be replacing will wear out prematurely. its like getting a new tire without having it balanced it vibes bad.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:00 PM
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My 1994 Impala started to handle like a boat and when I got her in the air I noticed a blown tie rod..
I wonder why, could it be that right boot in the picture is halfway missing ?.


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After looking at the rest I decided to replace all the steering components .. I plan to do springs ,ball joints, shocks and sway bars soon.

Go for the polyurethane end links and bushings, if you can find them for a boat that big. It's makes the cornering better, and tightens up the steering response so you don't loose grip on the helm as she's leaning from port to starboard.


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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:09 PM
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I'd forget about the profesional alignment. I would match up the length of the old parts the best you can. Then do the shade tree alignment. Do a test drive to see how it drives. keep an eye on tire wear to see if addition adjustment is needed.
Reasons for this are your tires are probably trashed anyway. Also, a precise alignment is not possible with the rest of the suspension worn out. I'd wait until the other worn parts are replaced. Unless you never intend to replace them.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:25 PM
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You can set Toe in drive way, but Caster /Camber you can not. Camber will affect inner/outer tires by leaning to far on them, Caster will help car go straight and wheel straighten out better when set in specs. Caster also helps with road crown. Also, you align the front to the rear.... if you ever seen a car go down the road and its crabbing, Rear end is messed up, either bent frame or just way out of alignment. At the price of tires, I would do it,I used to do it for a living, only one in the area that could keep Ford trucks from eating tires....
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:27 PM
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One more thing, center and block steering wheel before you set toe, hate a crooked wheel...and fighting turn signal switch is a pain...
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:36 PM
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It's just about time to do both the upper and lower ball joints in my F250 Super Duty... the parts are about $25 each or about $100... If I had to pay labor I would cry. Just under 6 hours at shop rate... Labor only $550.00 including alignment... $100 out the door sounds better.


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No body EVER touches my 69 Chevelle SS.

I had the same basic GM A-body car, a 71 Skylark.

Re-did the front suspension myself when I was around 22 or so.

New lower ball joints, new bushings, new tie rods, new shocks, and new sway bar links and bushings.

Took the lower A-arms out the whole way, removed the ball joints with a sledgehammer, and a friend of my dad pressed the new ball joints into the A-arms with a small hydraulic press and a deepwell socket
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:42 PM
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You can set Toe in drive way, but Caster /Camber you can not.
I beg to differ.

You can set toe, caster, and camber on a curb if you parallel park like some people do.

As a matter of fact I've seen it myself, there was a guy at work that had 1/2 a wheel cover on his front wheel.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:44 PM
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Go for the polyurethane end links and bushings, if you can find them for a boat that big. It's makes the cornering better, and tightens up the steering response so you don't loose grip on the helm as she's leaning from port to starboard.
haha The Impala is the first car I've had to jack up to see under it IMO it handles real well. Most of the rubber under the car is in good shape. I probably could have gotten away with just replacing that tie rod. I've got less than a half inch of play in the wheel now.
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