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Old Jan 23, 2013, 02:34 AM
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Ok I have been using my hero rc h991 alot for Indoor flying but now I want to go outside and fly. I'm looking for another 4ch FP heli that I can fly outdoors in 5-10mph winds. I was at first interested in the wltoys v912 but what are your thoughts and suggestions in my next heli I am 29 years old, can see and willing to spend about $120 fine lol.

Edit: if recommending me a micro heli I prefer a flybarless micro to step up from my h911
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 05:03 AM
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The self stabilizing design of V911 do not scale up in larger helis. You will get some really odd flight characteristics. Moreover, you will find them much harder to fly in the wind, to the extent that it may be blown away like a kite.

I would either get a quad like the V929 or V939 or go straight to a micro CP straightaway if you are confident. Getting a SIM would help in flying a CP.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 06:00 AM
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Thanks btw not intersted In quads what's a good cp to start off with.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 09:00 AM
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There's no FP heli that will handle wind. All of those 45į flybar helis teach you very little. They are over-stabilized and have poor movement authority. You may not like quads, but they are your best bet. You can try a micro CP, but you will crash a lot. For your price range, the Walkera Genius is probably your best bet. Buy lots of spare parts.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 09:53 AM
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There's no FP heli that will handle wind. All of those 45į flybar helis teach you very little. They are over-stabilized and have poor movement authority. You may not like quads, but they are your best bet. You can try a micro CP, but you will crash a lot. For your price range, the Walkera Genius is probably your best bet. Buy lots of spare parts.
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Barlr you really ought to change your "cranky old fart" description - it just doesn't fit!! How about "cranky old quad" instead ??
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:01 AM
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I hate to push quads; I'd really like to see them make something in the 250 - 300 size in a flybarless FP design with flapping hinges and granular linkage. I think that would make a great trainer. But, quads are simply far better than the FP helis they make now.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 01:22 PM
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Not even fb FP heli can't handle wind ?
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 01:57 PM
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The ability to handle wind means having enough agility and response to pitch into the wind very quickly and enough power to drive against the wind. The rotating blades act as a solid disk, wind will not penetrate it. That disk is like an umbrella. If wind gets under it and pushes up, you have very little defense other than cutting power, eliminating the disk. CP helis can use negative pitch to drive downward and counteract wind. Quads have instantaneous response (no moving parts), lots of movement authority and power, plus a 3 axis gyro to fight wind. The current FP helis have none of this. Their response is muted and weak, they have no movement authority and marginal power. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 04:27 PM
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Thanks balr14 I guess ill go with a CP heli any idea which a good starting off cp?
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I recently switched from FP to CP. I bought and flew my master cp (200 sized walkera) without realizing how different collective pitch was. I didnít crash but I was almost mad that I learned how to fly a fixed pitched heli. I am in the process of selling all my fixed pitch heliís. But back to your question; the walkera master cp has some built in stabilization and is designed as a CP trainer and will also do some nice 3D when your ready but at this point I havenít even mastered hovering. You wonít be able to fly this indoors even though itís a 200 sized heli.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 04:51 PM
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For your budget, the Walkera Genius is still the best option.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 05:05 PM
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I recently switched from FP to CP. I bought and flew my master cp (200 sized walkera) without realizing how different collective pitch was. I didnít crash but I was almost mad that I learned how to fly a fixed pitched heli. I am in the process of selling all my fixed pitch heliís. But back to your question; the walkera master cp has some built in stabilization and is designed as a CP trainer and will also do some nice 3D when your ready but at this point I havenít even mastered hovering. You wonít be able to fly this indoors even though itís a 200 sized heli.
Thanks ill check it out.

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For your budget, the Walkera Genius is still the best option.
Ok ill check it out thanks.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 12:14 AM
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I'd recommend a trip to your local hobby shop. See what they recommend and stock. I lot of guys are going with the Blade mCPx or Nano as their first CP heli. The mCPx is very durable.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 12:26 AM
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I prefer the MCPx or Nano as well, but not on a budget of $120.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 01:11 AM
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I'd recommend a trip to your local hobby shop. See what they recommend and stock. I lot of guys are going with the Blade mCPx or Nano as their first CP heli. The mCPx is very durable.
My local hobby shop is hobby people and there usually expensive.

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I prefer the MCPx or Nano as well, but not on a budget of $120.
Yea I know I really don't want to get too deep into spending the cash at the moment.
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