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Old Jan 20, 2013, 03:12 PM
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Micro Integrated PCB w/ESCs Quadcopter Frame 235mm

This tiny yet brilliantly designed Mini-Quad features an integrated PCB frame with 4 x 8A ESCs pre-installed. Simply bolt on the motors of your choice, then solder wire leads directly to the frame.

The integrated power distribution system with ESCs makes for one of the neatest electronics installs around. This cute little quad even features integrated LEDs on both the top and bottom of the motor mounts. The LEDs are switchable between both "X" and "+" configuration via an on board slide switch.

All mounting hardware and frame components are included in the kit. All you will require to have this quadcopter in the air is 4 x brushless motors, a set of propellers (2 clock wise and 2 counter clockwise) a 500~1000mah 2~3s lithium polymer battery, a HobbyKing Multi-rotor control board and your own transmitter & receiver (Tx/Rx).

Features:
Compact, lightweight design
Integrated PCB for tidy component installation
Integrated 8A ESC x 4
Includes a full set of frame and mounting hardware

Specs:
Width: 235mm
Height: 35mm
Weight: 82g (w/out electronics)
Motor mount holes: 13mm
Integrated ESC: 4 x 8A

Required:
4 x brushless outrunner motors
4 x 5~6 inch propeller (2CW & 2CCW rotation)
1 x HobbyKing Multi-Rotor Control Board
1 x 500~1000Mah 2~3s lithium polymer battery
Your own 4CH transmitter and receiver

This product has been in HobbyKing sales.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...35mm_KIT_.html

$26.99

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Old Jan 20, 2013, 03:41 PM
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Is this your designs or are you just pointing it out?

Is there a manual for the building or more exact instructions? This may be a good first build for me......
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 03:43 PM
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I asked in the SimonK flashing thread here about flashing the ESCs but no responses yet.

If anyone knows about flashing these ESCs let us know!

Cheers!
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 09:48 PM
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Is this your designs or are you just pointing it out?

Is there a manual for the building or more exact instructions? This may be a good first build for me......
HI,You can take a look at this site, here are the more detailed instructions
http://www.a-design.hk/en/multirotor.htm

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Old Jan 20, 2013, 10:13 PM
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I asked in the SimonK flashing thread here about flashing the ESCs but no responses yet.

If anyone knows about flashing these ESCs let us know!

Cheers!
My English is not very good, what's wrong with the flashing ESCs?

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Old Jan 21, 2013, 01:33 AM
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Hi Daniel and thanks for the responses.

So this is your design? Are you manufacturing them?
Its a nicely designed frame and the website is very well presented! Congratulations!
I have ordered one of these frames from Hobbyking. Are you supplying them? When will they be in stock?

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This is what I meant by flashing the ESCs
From..http://wiki.openpilot.org/display/Doc/RapidESCs

"So, what exactly is RapidESC and why do I need it?

Standard ESCs are actually not designed for multirotor applications. They are programmed to increase and decrease the throttle command towards the motor in a gentle way. The reason for this is quite obvious. Imagine a motor accelerating and decelerating so abruptly in a helicopter or car... it would damage the gears and reductions in no time. In a multirotor application, we really want just the opposite. The goal is to change the motor speed, and thus the thrust, as fast as possible to achieve a perfectly stable platform.

While the current ESCs used in most multrotor applications work considerably well, there is a lot of room for improvement. Using the same ESC, but loading it with dedicated optimized software, will increase the handling and stability of your multirotor greatly.

We call this RapidESC: converting your regular lazy ESC into a high speed capable speed controller at no extra cost, ready for multirotor applications."


Are your ESCs programmed for rapid response like SimonK firmware?
Or can we flash SimonK to them?


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Also it would be great if there was provision to mount a 35mm square control board. They mount on 30mmx30mm holes.
Like the 'Flip' http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1764146
Or 'Nanowii' http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hlight=nanowii
They are lighter.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 12:13 PM
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Hi Daniel and thanks for the responses.

So this is your design? Are you manufacturing them?
Its a nicely designed frame and the website is very well presented! Congratulations!
I have ordered one of these frames from Hobbyking. Are you supplying them? When will they be in stock?

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This is what I meant by flashing the ESCs
From..http://wiki.openpilot.org/display/Doc/RapidESCs

"So, what exactly is RapidESC and why do I need it?

Standard ESCs are actually not designed for multirotor applications. They are programmed to increase and decrease the throttle command towards the motor in a gentle way. The reason for this is quite obvious. Imagine a motor accelerating and decelerating so abruptly in a helicopter or car... it would damage the gears and reductions in no time. In a multirotor application, we really want just the opposite. The goal is to change the motor speed, and thus the thrust, as fast as possible to achieve a perfectly stable platform.

While the current ESCs used in most multrotor applications work considerably well, there is a lot of room for improvement. Using the same ESC, but loading it with dedicated optimized software, will increase the handling and stability of your multirotor greatly.

We call this RapidESC: converting your regular lazy ESC into a high speed capable speed controller at no extra cost, ready for multirotor applications."


Are your ESCs programmed for rapid response like SimonK firmware?
Or can we flash SimonK to them?


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Also it would be great if there was provision to mount a 35mm square control board. They mount on 30mmx30mm holes.
Like the 'Flip' http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1764146
Or 'Nanowii' http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hlight=nanowii
They are lighter.
Hello, thank you for your blessings. I'm glad you like me to design the product!
I read English is sweaty, so use software to help translation of English, may not too accurate, hope you can understand.

Hope I can correctly understand what you mean, need to explain, ESC use different hardware scheme, the corresponding different software configuration, we produce different ESC will also corresponding to different software to record, we use the MEGA8L chip, but not recommended to burn program, it is possible to bring unpredictable results.

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We don't produce such control board, but it is a very good product!
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 12:56 AM
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Thanks Daniel,

I will contact you directly regarding purchase.

I cancelled my Hobbyking order after their copying of the Nanowii & Microwii.

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Thanks Daniel,

I will contact you directly regarding purchase.

I cancelled my Hobbyking order after their copying of the Nanowii & Microwii.

Cheers.
No thanks, I'll try my best to answer your question.

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Old Jan 31, 2013, 06:26 PM
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So, any recommendations for the motors? The only way to mount my favourite 18-11 is with zipties, I haven't found any motors that would fit directly.
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I own an identical frame, but this version is a clone of the ZMR one :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=15554965686

The motors are theses 2400Kv ZMR motors :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=16181509635

But It seems the cloner havent drilled the same holes on his frame.
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 01:45 PM
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So, any recommendations for the motors? The only way to mount my favourite 18-11 is with zipties, I haven't found any motors that would fit directly.
Do the zip ties hold the motors perfectly tight?
I'd think even with a tight cinch, there would still be some play...
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Old Feb 01, 2013, 03:21 PM
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Turnigys 1811 2900kv dosnt work proper.
i get some problem with timing. Motors dosnt work well.
Auso Turnigy 1826 dosnt work proper still get some timing problem at higher speed.

This Motor will fit exactly with the holes of the Board :
1510-15 2200kv Mini Brushless Outrunner Motor from Mystery.
U get them on good....luck....buy...
This one i will test tomorow...maybe this one will spinn proper...without timming problem.
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The motors are theses 2400Kv ZMR motors :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=16181509635

But It seems the cloner havent drilled the same holes on his frame.
Any place to get these motors aside from Taobao? I'm not very good with chineese.
I found them some time ago and they look great (only small motor with integrated prop adapter that I know of), but the only shop where I could find them is a swedish one where they're expensive and they don't ship internationally.


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Do the zip ties hold the motors perfectly tight?
I'd think even with a tight cinch, there would still be some play...
If you do it right, there is no movement whatsoever. Many people use zipties on much bigger motors, like DT750 (because of their unusual mounting pattern). 18-11 aren't powerful enough to move under two zipties, and I have them mounted with four.

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Turnigys 1811 2900kv dosnt work proper.
i get some problem with timing. Motors dosnt work well.
I had some free time today, so I put mine together and did some buzzing around inside. I used 18-11 2000kv version, with no problems at all. 2000kv aren't very efficient on 2S, but it managed ~10min of flight time with a 1000mAh lipo. AUW is ~220g.

All in all, I really like this frame. The ESCs seem to be SimonK-like. They're fast, and they don't seem to be configurable, nor do they seem to have a low voltage cutoff - I might be wrong, but I got one lipo to 3.15V/cell and it still flew (I haven't noticed battery alarm slipping off, silly me). After hovering for 10 minutes they're not even warm, so whoever designed this thing did a good job.
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Turnigys 1811 2900kv dosnt work proper.
i get some problem with timing. Motors dosnt work well.
Auso Turnigy 1826 dosnt work proper still get some timing problem at higher speed.

This Motor will fit exactly with the holes of the Board :
1510-15 2200kv Mini Brushless Outrunner Motor from Mystery.
U get them on good....luck....buy...
This one i will test tomorow...maybe this one will spinn proper...without timming problem.
Did the 1510 motors work???
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