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Old Dec 22, 2003, 07:02 PM
Duncan
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Steam Boats - web site with pictures and info


Any interest in steam boats from this group?

I am currently building a Krick Victoria with a Cheddar Puffin steam
engine. Information on doing this seems rare so I am charting my
progress on the web with photographs and links to help others that
might try this.

See details at:

http://www.astbury.org/models/mdmain.htm

and more specifically

http://www.astbury.org/models/puffin/mdpuffin.htm

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Old Dec 22, 2003, 07:02 PM
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Re: Steam Boats - web site with pictures and info

Hi Duncan, I presently have one steamboat. The Lady Sarah steam launch from
a Sovereign Models kit in the UK. It is powered by a twin cylinder steam
engine from Marten,Howes and Baylis. This was built when they were producing
their own steam engines. I'm using a vertical, gas fired boiler. I build my
own boilers.
This winter, I am going to build the "Brooklyn", a steam railroad tug
from Dumas Models, and plan on steam power. As well, I have decided to
refurbish my steam launch, after which, it will be relegated to a display
case. KC
"Duncan" <ad@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Any interest in steam boats from this group?
>
> I am currently building a Krick Victoria with a Cheddar Puffin steam
> engine. Information on doing this seems rare so I am charting my
> progress on the web with photographs and links to help others that
> might try this.
>
> See details at:
>
> http://www.astbury.org/models/mdmain.htm
>
> and more specifically
>
> http://www.astbury.org/models/puffin/mdpuffin.htm
>
> --
> www.astbury.org
>
> Please post any replies to this NG and do not reply direct - thanks.
>



Old Dec 23, 2003, 07:03 PM
Duncan
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Re: Steam Boats - web site with pictures and info


KC

Good to know there is at least one fellow steam enthusiast out there!

Cheddar now do the engines for the Marten, Howes Bayliss models but I
have started with one of Cheddar's simpler engines - a 2 cyclinder
oscillator (I aspire to a slide valve engine some time in the future).

I found a picture of "Brooklyn" on the web but was not so lucky with
Sovereign - do you have any pictures of Lady Sarah?

I am suitably impressed that you do your own boilers - is that to save
money or do you just like doing them? I am in the UK but guess that
you are US based - what are the pressure test and
certification/insurance requirements in the US?

Duncan.


On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:00:12 GMT, "KC" <abigail6@comcast.net> wrote:

>Hi Duncan, I presently have one steamboat. The Lady Sarah steam launch from
>a Sovereign Models kit in the UK. It is powered by a twin cylinder steam
>engine from Marten,Howes and Baylis. This was built when they were producing
>their own steam engines. I'm using a vertical, gas fired boiler. I build my
>own boilers.
> This winter, I am going to build the "Brooklyn", a steam railroad tug
>from Dumas Models, and plan on steam power. As well, I have decided to
>refurbish my steam launch, after which, it will be relegated to a display
>case. KC
>"Duncan" <ad@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0msduvovuop19np93j31vvclu704oc6eps@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Any interest in steam boats from this group?
>>
>> I am currently building a Krick Victoria with a Cheddar Puffin steam
>> engine. Information on doing this seems rare so I am charting my
>> progress on the web with photographs and links to help others that
>> might try this.
>>
>> See details at:
>>
>> http://www.astbury.org/models/mdmain.htm
>>
>> and more specifically
>>
>> http://www.astbury.org/models/puffin/mdpuffin.htm
>>
>> --
>> www.astbury.org
>>
>> Please post any replies to this NG and do not reply direct - thanks.
>>

>


Old Dec 23, 2003, 07:03 PM
Duncan
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Re: Steam Boats - web site with pictures and info


KC

Good to know there is at least one fellow steam enthusiast out there!

Cheddar now do the engines for the Marten, Howes Bayliss models but I
have started with one of Cheddar's simpler engines - a 2 cyclinder
oscillator (I aspire to a slide valve engine some time in the future).

I found a picture of "Brooklyn" on the web but was not so lucky with
Sovereign - do you have any pictures of Lady Sarah?

I am suitably impressed that you do your own boilers - is that to save
money or do you just like doing them? I am in the UK but guess that
you are US based - what are the pressure test and
certification/insurance requirements in the US?

Duncan.


On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:00:12 GMT, "KC" <abigail6@comcast.net> wrote:

>Hi Duncan, I presently have one steamboat. The Lady Sarah steam launch from
>a Sovereign Models kit in the UK. It is powered by a twin cylinder steam
>engine from Marten,Howes and Baylis. This was built when they were producing
>their own steam engines. I'm using a vertical, gas fired boiler. I build my
>own boilers.
> This winter, I am going to build the "Brooklyn", a steam railroad tug
>from Dumas Models, and plan on steam power. As well, I have decided to
>refurbish my steam launch, after which, it will be relegated to a display
>case. KC
>"Duncan" <ad@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0msduvovuop19np93j31vvclu704oc6eps@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Any interest in steam boats from this group?
>>
>> I am currently building a Krick Victoria with a Cheddar Puffin steam
>> engine. Information on doing this seems rare so I am charting my
>> progress on the web with photographs and links to help others that
>> might try this.
>>
>> See details at:
>>
>> http://www.astbury.org/models/mdmain.htm
>>
>> and more specifically
>>
>> http://www.astbury.org/models/puffin/mdpuffin.htm
>>
>> --
>> www.astbury.org
>>
>> Please post any replies to this NG and do not reply direct - thanks.
>>

>


Old Dec 29, 2003, 07:03 PM
Jas
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Re: Steam Boats - web site with pictures and info

Have a look at the steam engine in this site

http://www.grmbc.org.uk/


JB


Old Dec 30, 2003, 07:06 PM
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Thanks, I enjoyed looking through the pictures. Some nice woodwork on
Lady Sarah and as for Charlie's steam winch - wow.

(At the risk of being off topic I even looked at the Chevy pics)

Getting back in topic - ish- we were at the Sandown Model Engineering
Exhibition on Monday and my partner, Cherry, has committed to a 1/3rd
scale traction engine, details will be posted at
http://www.astbury.org/steam/steam.htm

Makes my model steam launch look like kids stuff!

Duncan.


On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:20:25 GMT, "KC" <abigail6@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hello Duncan,
> If you go to http://www.picturetrail.com/chauffeur you can see some
>pictures of my S/L Lady Sarah. Some pictures were taken at various stages
>of construction. The fuel tank is under the floor boards and inaccessible
>now. I also posted an album of Charlie's work. Remember, he scratch builds
>everything, (including the molds for the hulls). Wish I had a tiny bit of
>his talent. Anymore questions, post'em here. Well, enjoy. Ken
>


Old Oct 01, 2004, 02:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Duncan
KC

Good to know there is at least one fellow steam enthusiast out there!

Cheddar now do the engines for the Marten, Howes Bayliss models but I
have started with one of Cheddar's simpler engines - a 2 cyclinder
oscillator (I aspire to a slide valve engine some time in the future).

I found a picture of "Brooklyn" on the web but was not so lucky with
Sovereign - do you have any pictures of Lady Sarah?

I am suitably impressed that you do your own boilers - is that to save
money or do you just like doing them? I am in the UK but guess that
you are US based - what are the pressure test and
certification/insurance requirements in the US?

Duncan.


On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:00:12 GMT, "KC" <abigail6@comcast.net> wrote:

>Hi Duncan, I presently have one steamboat. The Lady Sarah steam launch from
>a Sovereign Models kit in the UK. It is powered by a twin cylinder steam
>engine from Marten,Howes and Baylis. This was built when they were producing
>their own steam engines. I'm using a vertical, gas fired boiler. I build my
>own boilers.
> This winter, I am going to build the "Brooklyn", a steam railroad tug
>from Dumas Models, and plan on steam power. As well, I have decided to
>refurbish my steam launch, after which, it will be relegated to a display
>case. KC
>"Duncan" <ad@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0msduvovuop19np93j31vvclu704oc6eps@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Any interest in steam boats from this group?
>>
>> I am currently building a Krick Victoria with a Cheddar Puffin steam
>> engine. Information on doing this seems rare so I am charting my
>> progress on the web with photographs and links to help others that
>> might try this.
>>
>> See details at:
>>
>> http://www.astbury.org/models/mdmain.htm
>>
>> and more specifically
>>
>> http://www.astbury.org/models/puffin/mdpuffin.htm
>>
>> --
>> www.astbury.org
>>
>> Please post any replies to this NG and do not reply direct - thanks.
>>

>
I have just aquired a lady sarah and would like to fit my puffin steam plant to this model. Anyone done this and if so how did you hide the gas can.

Bob
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Old Oct 02, 2004, 03:11 PM
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>I have just aquired a lady sarah and would like to fit my puffin steam
>plant to this model. Anyone done this and if so how did you hide the
>gas can.
>
>Bob


Bob,

I see someone already posted a previous dialogue which touched on this
subject.

For details on using the Cheddar Puffin engine (but in a Krick
Victoria) you can look at:
http://www.astbury.org/models/puffin/mdpuffin.htm

References to Lady Sarah are few but you can find some photos on:
http://www.scale-models.co.uk/showthread.php?t=249


I think you have two basic options with the gas can, but remember to:
a) consider leaving room for receiver & servos,
b) consider effects on trim,
c) allow access to fill the can

1) Hide it - looks like the bow or cabin are the only options here but
the bow does not have much space and the cabin will not look so good
if the gas can is seen through the windows.

You may need to replace the gas can with something smaller or even
custom made, Cheddars range can be seen at:
http://www.modelsteam.co.uk/accessories.html

And SVS (Stour Valley Steam) may make tanks to order, no web site but
contact details here:
http://www.kingstonmouldings.co.uk/S...dSuppliers.asp


2) Don't hide it - just disguise it slightly - do something with wood
strips and brass (the approach I have taken with my condensing oil
trap) to make a feature of it, like this example
http://www.astbury.org/models/puffin/mcvic3.jpg
(also note in this picture how a brass strip conducts some heat back
from the boiler to the gas can as it can freeze up as the pressurised
gas is used)

or try to make it look like a seat/coal bunker etc.

Hope this helps
Duncan.
www.astbury.org

Old Nov 22, 2004, 01:11 PM
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I'm highly interested, but currently saving for that prized first engine.
How difficult are they to run and maintain? Having grown up in an area
where commercial shipping was huge, my interest is definitely there and
waiting.

Travis
"Duncan" <ad@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Any interest in steam boats from this group?
>
> I am currently building a Krick Victoria with a Cheddar Puffin steam
> engine. Information on doing this seems rare so I am charting my
> progress on the web with photographs and links to help others that
> might try this.
>
> See details at:
>
> http://www.astbury.org/models/mdmain.htm
>
> and more specifically
>
> http://www.astbury.org/models/puffin/mdpuffin.htm
>
> --
> www.astbury.org
>
> Please post any replies to this NG and do not reply direct - thanks.
>



Old Nov 23, 2004, 07:11 PM
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In general steam engines should not be difficult to maintain or run.
Do you have a particular engine in mind as your first? Oscillating
engines have few moving parts and so can prove very reliable.

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:13:42 -0600, "Us" <simplyme@poncacity.net>
wrote:

>I'm highly interested, but currently saving for that prized first engine.
>How difficult are they to run and maintain? Having grown up in an area
>where commercial shipping was huge, my interest is definitely there and
>waiting.
>
>Travis
>"Duncan" <ad@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0msduvovuop19np93j31vvclu704oc6eps@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Any interest in steam boats from this group?
>>
>> I am currently building a Krick Victoria with a Cheddar Puffin steam
>> engine. Information on doing this seems rare so I am charting my
>> progress on the web with photographs and links to help others that
>> might try this.
>>
>> See details at:
>>
>> http://www.astbury.org/models/mdmain.htm
>>
>> and more specifically
>>
>> http://www.astbury.org/models/puffin/mdpuffin.htm
>>
>> --
>> www.astbury.org
>>
>> Please post any replies to this NG and do not reply direct - thanks.
>>

>


Old Nov 24, 2004, 09:11 AM
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Duncan,

I was thinking of Midwest's Heritage engine due to simplicity and minimal
initial cost. But I'd love to dive in with one of Cheddar's line as the
manufacturing looks of high quality (as is stated of by others as well). I
know little of Wilesco and other manufacturers though. I've noticed that
there aren't a lot of vendors stateside for marine live steam. Well, live
steam in general. Though railfans have a few more options to turn to. I
lack the space for a railway, and actually prefer the water, so... back to
marine based engines.

Travis
"Duncan" <ad@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> In general steam engines should not be difficult to maintain or run.
> Do you have a particular engine in mind as your first? Oscillating
> engines have few moving parts and so can prove very reliable.
>



Old Nov 30, 2004, 03:45 PM
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does anyone here remember peter arnots v4 oscillator in model boats magazine i believe it was about ten years ago. i am looking for the volume/issue numbers it was published in or better still copies or even the magazines it was in. please can anyone help?

MANY THANKS
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Old Dec 02, 2004, 07:11 AM
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I'm totally in the dark as far as specifics, but Marine Modelling
International from Traplet Publications might be the people to contact.
They tend to cater to steam more so than other magazines from what I've
seen.

Travis

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Old Feb 03, 2009, 11:26 AM
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Hello Duncan Do you still own the Victoria i am about to build one please let me know thank you.
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