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Old Jan 18, 2013, 10:29 PM
Stop scaring my donkey!
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Shhhhh! He signed a confidentiality covenant, and is working feverishly!
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 06:24 AM
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that was only 1/2 the story
the other half was the pilots fixating on one instrument
there was a lot of pilot error in that too
Oh, the CRASH was ALL pilot error. The pitot tube failure would have been a non-event if proper procedure had been followed. I'm just pointing out the the manufacturer of the 787 battery charging system (possible culprit) is the same one that made those defective pitot tubes. FWIW


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Old Jan 19, 2013, 12:10 PM
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pilot error

I must agree with all reference above to pilot error.

It is the duty of the captain of a ship to take responsibility.

Not a small task, in view of the complexity.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 02:47 PM
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corporate espionage?

QUOTE "Funny, that with all the hours of flight testing and over a year in revenue service, all of a sudden two batteries fail back to back."


You know, its not completly dismissable that Airbus snuke in during the night and swapped out the Yuasa with the blue turnigies.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 02:48 PM
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Well, good luck with the warranty claims!
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 03:02 PM
Холодная война все еще здесь.
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Go Old School, power it on 1300SCRs, A couple of wagon loads should do.
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Old Jan 19, 2013, 03:14 PM
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Go Old School, power it on 1300SCRs, A couple of wagon loads should do.
Indeed: I can hear the carbon fiber cracking....
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 08:37 AM
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Yep looks like overcharging

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...nction-381268/
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 09:18 AM
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should of used FMA powerlabs
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 01:24 PM
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The box contained it nicely.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 01:28 PM
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Hm, damning with faint praise I'd say!

It is sounding more and more like a fabrication, not design issue, which is great for Boeing and those of us in the U.S.A. who believe its design is superior.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 02:37 PM
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Hm, damning with faint praise I'd say!

It is sounding more and more like a fabrication, not design issue, which is great for Boeing and those of us in the U.S.A. who believe its design is superior.
Time will tell. This is not the first instance where the design of the electrical system has caused problems.

Hopefully Boeing was on top of those issues ...
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 09:18 AM
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NTSB is looking at the battery charger used in this system:

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787 probe puts spotlight on Arizona battery firm

(Reuters) - Tucson, Arizona-based Securaplane Technologies Inc, which makes a charger for batteries used on the Boeing Co's 787 Dreamliner, on Sunday said it would support an investigation into battery issues that have grounded the new planes.

Securaplane, a unit of Britain's Meggitt Plc, first began working on the charger in 2004, but suffered millions of dollars of damages in November 2006 after a lithium-ion battery used in testing exploded and sparked a fire that burned an administrative building to the ground.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...90J0B320130121
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 11:30 AM
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I did read that article, and a few others... Complex issue... ITS gonna be hitting the fan!
Fortunately the event wasn't worse.
Hope they get it resolved quickly.
but I doubt it.
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 11:32 AM
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I did read that article, and a few others... Complex issue... ITS gonna be hitting the fan!
Fortunately the event wasn't worse.
Hope they get it resolved quickly.
but I doubt it.
Oral testimony during Exon Valdez Coast Guard hearings: First mate to Hazelwood-"Where were you when the ship hit the sand?"

I can see Speea engineers running for cover right now!
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