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Old Jan 12, 2013, 09:14 AM
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RealFlight and Joe Wurts Third Vector

I modified RealFlight's thermal park to simulate Joe Wurts Third Vector tutorials.

"Thermal Park Third Vector" is for DLG practice.
http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/down...es&userid=8765

I suggest using the wonderful work by Fly_Electric who modeled Dr. Drela's SuperGee II.
http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/down...=file&id=17885

I recommend watching the video: "Joe Wurts on Soaring" that shows us how to apply his "Third Vector" drawing. There are links to both of these on the "Tips" page of my website www.TailwindGliders.com

Enjoy!
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 10:00 AM
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Thanks for sharing this. I will use it.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 10:08 AM
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Guess I'm going to have to upgrade to 6.5 now.

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 10:19 AM
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For those who don't own RealFlight perhaps this will entice you. By the way I don't work for RealFlight, I just enjoy flying it!

RealFlight Thermal Searching (2 min 13 sec)


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Old Jan 12, 2013, 11:04 AM
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Sweet. I have RealFlight 3.5, but didn't know until just recently that I could buy the 6.5 upgrade and install it over 3.5 (the 6.5 documents don't say 6.5-over-3.5 is a valid upgrade path).

RealFlight 3.5 was *awesome* for training myself to fly helicopters, but it really stinks for gliders. From all I've read, 6 is much improved wrt gliders.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 11:15 AM
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This reminds me that JW not only uses his "analytical brain" (the part that figures out 2+2=?) to find thermals by via the third vector and the in the latest AMA mag there is a story in which he says that he uses his "lizard" brain to find thermals. (The lizard brain is the more instinctive/intuitive part of our thinking and can integrate lots of semi-quantitative info.)

And finally JW has the "thermal squirrel" in his brain also finding thermals.

That's two animals brains and a computer; a lot of parallel processing going on.

Meanwhile, I'm using my own parallel processing to make sure my plane is turned on and trying to find a place to launch where I won't hit anything.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 12:53 PM
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For those who don't own RealFlight perhaps this will entice you.
Wow! That was really real. Must repair my plane and get back to thermaling business.

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 01:20 PM
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How ON/OFF Arrows ?
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 01:55 PM
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How ON/OFF Arrows ?
This should make the experience better.

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 03:34 PM
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Does 6.5 have a DLG or do you have to import it?
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 03:57 PM
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Does 6.5 have a DLG or do you have to import it?
You have to import it. Thanks to Fly_Electric he modeled my modified SuperGee II scratch build and I flight tuned/tested it. See Post #1 in this thread.

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 07:24 PM
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Guess I'm going to have to upgrade to 6.5 now.

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Thanks Curtis and Fly_ Electric! It's nice to fly something while it's 6 degrees snowing and dark here in Bronco land.

Bob I'm no expert with RealFlight but I just imported the field and plane to my 4.5 version and it works great.

Armchair pilot tonight.

John
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 09:03 PM
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Really? I've tried to use 6.5 design files and they haven't worked for me before. I'll give it another try.
Thanks
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Looks like I need 4.5 or above. I have 3.5
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 11:06 PM
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thanks for this thread. I down loaded the content and imported it. For my limited experience with DLG it feels pretty real.
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 01:36 PM
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Thanks Curtis and Fly_ Electric! It's nice to fly something while it's 6 degrees snowing and dark here in Bronco land.

Bob I'm no expert with RealFlight but I just imported the field and plane to my 4.5 version and it works great.

Armchair pilot tonight.

John
You are welcome John. It was an honor to work with Curtis on the SG II. As a bonus, I learned more about DLGs during the build.
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