Ho-IX_ 1-8th from Jack bale- questions-

kitfoxkid · Jan 10, 2013, 10:35 AM

I found in internet a very nice drawing of a Ho-IX_ 1-8th Scale 82 In WS from Jack Lynn Bale. someone build it? Someone has some information about this design? Thanks

Stupot46 · 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kitfoxkid

I found in internet a very nice drawing of a Ho-IX_ 1-8th Scale 82 In WS from Jack Lynn Bale. someone build it? Someone has some information about this design? Thanks

Sorry can't help you with that one,though some of the USA guys may be able to help.
This may interest you,it's based on an 82"

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1731896
Stuart
Do you have a link to the drawing?

Stupot46 · Jan 10, 2013, 01:25 PM

Did a search on here and found this thread amongst others
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...jack+bale+plan
Doesn't sound very good.

John Wright · Jan 10, 2013, 03:00 PM

The Horten is not an easy plane to get right. I would not invest my time making a Horten unless I saw it flying first. Incidentally the one at the start of the thread you were pointed to is my turbine Horten which is a great flyer.

John

kitfoxkid · Jan 11, 2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stupot46

Sorry can't help you with that one,though some of the USA guys may be able to help.
This may interest you,it's based on an 82"

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1731896
Stuart
Do you have a link to the drawing?

Thanks for this very nice link, great project. I don´t remember where I found the plan, but if you like I can send you via E.mail the PDF plan.

Stupot46 · Jan 11, 2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kitfoxkid

Thanks for this very nice link, great project. I don´t remember where I found the plan, but if you like I can send you via E.mail the PDF plan.

Could you post the plan on here,you may get some good advice about it.

nemoskull · Jan 11, 2013, 10:52 PM

ive messed with simple flying wing, the only thing is the funky that ive encountered is the need for twist in the wing. im working on desiging a go229, but the issue is the lack of an elevator or horizontal stab to keep the wing 'pointed up'. i had a simple KF airfoil ho229 and it did an nice nose dive every time till i bent up the TE of the wing tip.

(here im mosly guessing, but i am thinking a more elegant solution is to move the center of lift for a given airfoil 'aftwards' and i belive this is how it was done on the full scale plane. "bell shaped distribution of lift" this would be a more elegant solution, tho im guessing you could work with a elevrons and lots of trim.

Bare · Jan 12, 2013, 12:39 PM

Suggest you study that "bales" plan v carefully ..do a bit of on screen research..Gawd knows there are reams of documents.
Then.. decide if it's a workable plan.
IX's on edf are problematic to execute successfully. Wayyy more failures than successes, which is why 'good' ones are so well regarded. Not a project to be undertaken on a whim.
IMO old mr Bales (rip) had little grasp of what was involved, beyond filling the three view with parts.

Jan 10, 2013, 10:35 AM	#1
kitfoxkid Registered User Trenque Lauquen, Argentina Joined Jan 2005 84 Posts	Ho-IX_ 1-8th from Jack bale- questions- I found in internet a very nice drawing of a Ho-IX_ 1-8th Scale 82 In WS from Jack Lynn Bale. someone build it? Someone has some information about this design? Thanks

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Jan 10, 2013, 01:25 PM	#3
Stupot46 I don't like your altitude Joined Sep 2011 2,166 Posts	Did a search on here and found this thread amongst others http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...jack+bale+plan Doesn't sound very good.

Jan 10, 2013, 03:00 PM	#4
John Wright Registered User Colchester UK Joined May 2004 348 Posts	The Horten is not an easy plane to get right. I would not invest my time making a Horten unless I saw it flying first. Incidentally the one at the start of the thread you were pointed to is my turbine Horten which is a great flyer. John

Jan 11, 2013, 10:52 PM	#7
nemoskull Pilot, Co-pilot, Navagator United States, AZ, Yuma Joined Sep 2009 2,651 Posts	ive messed with simple flying wing, the only thing is the funky that ive encountered is the need for twist in the wing. im working on desiging a go229, but the issue is the lack of an elevator or horizontal stab to keep the wing 'pointed up'. i had a simple KF airfoil ho229 and it did an nice nose dive every time till i bent up the TE of the wing tip. (here im mosly guessing, but i am thinking a more elegant solution is to move the center of lift for a given airfoil 'aftwards' and i belive this is how it was done on the full scale plane. "bell shaped distribution of lift" this would be a more elegant solution, tho im guessing you could work with a elevrons and lots of trim.

Jan 12, 2013, 12:39 PM	#8
Bare Registered User Canada Joined Nov 2000 5,183 Posts	Suggest you study that "bales" plan v carefully ..do a bit of on screen research..Gawd knows there are reams of documents. Then.. decide if it's a workable plan. IX's on edf are problematic to execute successfully. Wayyy more failures than successes, which is why 'good' ones are so well regarded. Not a project to be undertaken on a whim. IMO old mr Bales (rip) had little grasp of what was involved, beyond filling the three view with parts.