Looks good in the snow. I too could use a lil more elev throw.

I have to figure out if I will need to turn the gain down on the elevator when I move it to the inner most hole on the horn.

I guess I will test fly it first then go from there.

Hopefully I can get my son to record me again and post some more vids.

That was my plan also

No the field is just a little elementary school on my street in Herndon.

Do not know how much more I will be able to get out of it but we will see.

Just does not flat spin just yet, May also move the CG back a bit and see if that helps.

I moved cg back and it's better, next time try flat spin with only rudder input at first and only use ail to level. I know, it's weird...I also feel a latency on the elevator sometimes?

Originally Posted by Left Coast DJ

That's some very sweet flying!

Any opinions on this as a first 3D plane? Trying to decide between a flat foamie (Crack Yak for appx $150) vs. the VisionAire?

I love my CY
crazy 3D with it... very fun plane

Originally Posted by Mmarshall

Bought this today at Hobby Hanger in Chantilly around 1pm today...2.5 hours later took it out in the snow to play a little.

Someone mentioned wanting to see some low hovering so here you go.


Thanks Bob at HH!

You were right its a blast!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt-47...ature=youtu.be

Nice flying, but the motor working hard to keep it in a hover hey? I wish it had a little more power to hold the hover better... Batts don't last so long if you do lots of hovers... But great plane in every other way... Handles windy days without any bother.... It's not quite a PA addiction (too heavy i feel) but great to learn new moves on and windy day flights.... Great job HH....

Can I put this RX in my gas planes now?... Hehe!

Got a few more flights on it today and here is what I find,

1. Hovers about as easy as it can get, can torq roll in them and remains very stable.

2. Harriers up right and inverted are very easy.

3. Rolling harriers are so much fun to do with this, very easy and predictable.

4. Fast flight very straight even with more wind today.

5. Knife edge is very straight and predictable but requires a good amount of throttle to maintain level flight.

6. Elevators very nice

Plane is great but as a extreme 3D plane it lacks in,

1. Not enough energy to pop-top properly, could also be blow-back on rudder and elevator.

2. Cannot do a proper blender, again may be blow-back on elevator.

3. Knife edge spins

5. Inverted flat spins just do not flatten out.

I think most if not all of these minuses are due to blow-back on the elevator and if you notice are all "high energy" maneuvers done in 3D mode.

With radio in 3D mode and 100-125% rate you can see the elevator horn flex on the servo through the clear window under the plane.

I can get around 44 degrees of throw in each direction but with the horn flex I am sure it blows back a lot.

I do not think the advance moves are beyond the AS3X capabilities but more control surface related.

I think some mods are in order for me but please keep in mind that my normal field planes are a 51'' 3DHS slick and a 48'' EF Edge.

Going to try and change the horn first and see if getting rid of the flex "fixes" my issues some.

MMarshal, thanks for the report. That's a lot of good info.

And more!

Another couple flights after changing the elevator servo horn to a 3DHS extended one.

I can now scratch following...

1. Not enough energy to pop-top properly, could also be blow-back on rudder and elevator.

2. Cannot do a proper blender, again may be blow-back on elevator.

3. Knife edge spins

5. Inverted flat spins just do not flatten out.

I managed to do ALL of these after moving the CG back (battery all the way back) and maxing rudder throw until it almost hits the elevator and the servo horn change.

I get 55 degrees of down and 45 up elevator with the new non-flexing horn it is slightly longer (another couple holes).

I did notice some hunting on the rudder while going full throttle straight up, may need to turn the gain down a bit.

I was doing everything low and slow in gusts up to around 10mph even doing some tail touches in hovers.

OK I am now officially impressed with this plane, now I just need more 3's 2200's!

Keep in mind your mileage may vary and unless you already are flying some serious 3D machines you wont need to change anything from the start.

I can honestly say I fly this better then I do my 3DHS 51 Slick.

What servo arms did you use?

I was having trouble until I turned on the as3x and set down the tx...all you really have to do is stand in the right place and thumb-sync.....

vaout1 (4 min 3 sec)

after vid I moved pack all the way back and went to inner hole on elevator. no osci's at full throttle.

Originally Posted by Sonofagun

I was having trouble until I turned on the as3x and set down the tx...all you really have to do is stand in the right place and thumb-sync.....
http://youtu.be/9MQEb1k7JV0
after vid I moved pack all the way back and went to inner hole on elevator. no osci's at full throttle.

Nice flying Brian. Sorry I missed you guys this morning. My wife had an errand to run so I stayed home with the little man (got a new 3 month old at home now!).

Originally Posted by turnerm

Nice flying Brian. Sorry I missed you guys this morning. My wife had an errand to run so I stayed home with the little man (got a new 3 month old at home now!).

So you didn't get to fly it? I might get one anyway based on the review above!

Originally Posted by Mmarshall

I can honestly say I fly this better then I do my 3DHS 51 Slick.

could this be because of less "Clacker Factor" because it's Foam!

great flying and great tips for those more experienced and still enjoying this great learning tool for us novice flyers

do you think flying a 2200mAh 40C battery might give that extra oomph people talk about?

cheers chuck