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Sundancer · 05:42 AM

The “Britkit Build Off” which ends on 31/12/2012 has proved reasonably popular, with 35 entries posting 32 build logs, which have been enjoyable, instructive and in some cases extremely entertaining. It looks likely that there will be some 23 finished models of huge variety by the closing date, ranging from a delightful 2 ounce electric R/C Dandy to a mighty 112” scaled up I.C. powered KK Junior 60 R/C, covering almost all types between and representing all the major kit manufacturers of the period. On the whole I would regard this as being a successful and worthwhile “contest” which has encouraged the production of some excellent models, I know I certainly enjoyed my builds and the completed models are now favourite performers. The poll for this build off will be posted on 01/01/2013, please be sure to go there, look at the photos and vote for your favourite.

Thanks for those who have expressed interest in another Build Off and given their views on the qualifying and closing dates. There was a clear majority in favour of 31/12/1965 as the qualifying date but the closing date proved to be a tie between those preferring 31/12/2013 and those favouring a six month period, so I have exercised my casting vote in favour of a six month build off, we can always start another one in July (I already have an idea!). So, here are the “rules”

Duration of build off; 1st January 2013 to 30th June 2013 (six months)

Model built from any plan which appeared in any “professional” UK published magazine (i.e. NOT club and society newsletters) before 31/12/1965. By plan I mean a full size feature plan, a plan shown in reduced size and subsequently sold full size by the magazine OR a detailed structural three view for which no full size plans were offered.

The model may be original size OR scaled up or down.

The model may be powered by the original method or by any alternative – e.g. rubber or IC power converted to electric, IC power converted to rubber etc.

The model may be flown as originally designed or converted to another flying method – e.g. F/F or C/L to radio, radio to F/F or C/L etc.

Here is a list (NOT exhaustive) of qualifying magazines: Aeromodeller (including Aeromodeller Annual), Model Aircraft, Ian Allen Model Aviation/Planbook series, R.C.M & E, Hobbies Magazine, RAF Flying Review (yes, it did have a model section, they published some Bill Dean designs like the Rogue). This lot should produce many hundreds of plans to choose from.

In order to qualify for the poll at the end of the build off the model must be completed, but not necessarily flown. As a minimum a photo and description of the finished model must be posted on the Build Off thread, but if possible a Build Log thread for the model is much preferred, please try and do one if at all possible.

As before I will keep the first post of the thread up to date with entries, progress and build log links.

When you have decided to enter a model, please post the details on this thread, if there is to be a build log please also post the link to that here too, particularly if it is to be in another forum - free flight or scale for example - once you start it, I will pick up and list any started on this forum, but can't look at all the others. If you title the build log thread "(Model) - Britplan Build Off January 2013 to June 2013" that would be a help. If you have any doubts about the eligibility of a particular models, just ask for a ruling.

I'll start the ball rolling, build log to follow.

Entry List

Sundancer – Rubberdub (Aeromodeller) rubber model converted to electric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...8#post23657620
RFJ - Manx Monarch scaled down. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1812538 Finished 02/02/2013 Flown 28/02/2013
cpmcgraw - Envoy. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1797921
mixer421 - Edgar-Percival EP9. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1799648 Finished 20/03/2013
doncrashum - King Harry. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1800285
mrdj - Auster AOP9. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1797737
hobgoblin - President (Hatfull)
Owlsabie - Paageboy. Build Log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1797372 Finished 29/03/2013 Flown 30/03/2013
John38 - Debutante x2. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1850447
Sparks59 - Coquette electric R/C
Colibriguitars - Wee Snifter electric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1798662 Finished 26/01/2013 Flown 04/02/2013
RAF_Bob - Contra-Gyro R/E/T R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1800143
Applehoney - WLB4 (A/M 1943) rubber F/F. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1799627 Finished 19/04/2013
Sky Jiver - Stomper (G. Fuller). Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1801253
Colonel Blink - Dart Kitten (APS) eletric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...7#post23707600
cd_webb - Skyline Kitten electric R/C Build thread at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1807783 Finished 10/03/2013
Hoffboy - Sparky Electric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1802407
HarryD - Dunne tailless electric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...0#post24693971 Finished 10/05/2013
patmcc - Popsie
patmcc - Flying Washboard
cswee - Wendy (Model Aircraft plan). Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1803502
JohnAV8R - Peacemaker. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1804015
Ian Dale - Tadpole. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1810509
ECBoehm - Wren. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1#post23867803 Finished 27/02/2013. Flown 10/03/2013
John Moore - 1.3x President
PeterH - Mamselle (electric R/C) Build thread at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1818850 Finished 12/05/2013
cpmcgraw - Mamselle (electric R/C) Build thread at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1823149
colibriguitars - Mam'selle (electric R/C) Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1823360 Finished and Flown 18/03/2013
edalpoe - Simplex (Stouffer) (IC radio) Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1824092 Finished 01/04/2013 Flown 27/04/2013
PeterH - Prestwick Pioneer (Burns) (Electric R/C)
KKphantom - Skygipsy (Malmstrom). Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1832922 Finished and Flown 23/03/2013
flyinglog - Lulu (J. Barker)
cd_webb - Titch (Warring) (Electric R/C) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1856745 Finished 09/03/2013 Flown 13/03/2013
propaplace - Lockheed Neptune (Bodey)
warrenb - Sharkface for PAW 049. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1883766

Warren B · Dec 28, 2012, 05:31 PM

I'm in - but with a delayed start as I am committed to making some progress on the old van seen in the background of my Junior build log.
My entry will probably be a Sharkface with a throttled PAW 049.
Many other plans are very tempting but I supect somthing very simple is best otherwise my resolve on the van might weaken.
If I run right out of time there is always the all sheet Simplex.

Does BritPlan extend to Aeromodeller Annuals?
A Schiffermuller would be cute, but maybe this is pushing the BritPlan concept a bit?

A vote of thanks to Sundancer for organising another great build off, can't wait to see the choices.

cpmcgraw · Dec 28, 2012, 08:24 PM

Sundancer, I'm in for the challenge as well! That Shaw "Envoy" looks nice, and I think I've got everything needed in my scrap pile to do it. Maybe only the covering and a handful of sundries to purchase.

I'll start a build log as soon as I start cutting balsa...

Colonel Blink · Dec 29, 2012, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren B

Does BritPlan extend to Aeromodeller Annuals?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundancer

...qualifying magazines: Aeromodeller (including Aeromodeller Annual)

Warren B · Dec 29, 2012, 05:06 AM

Obviously actually reading the text is not my strong point.
Whoops!

RFJ · Dec 29, 2012, 06:15 AM

Quote:

A vote of thanks to Sundancer for organising another great build off

I'll second that and, after thinking about it, the January - June contest period is probably the better choice.

My entry will be a scaled down 1950 Aeromodeller plan Manx Monarch.

Ray

Sundancer · Dec 29, 2012, 06:59 AM

Oooo - a tailless model no less Ray! I'm looking forward to that!

mixer421 · Dec 29, 2012, 02:33 PM

I'm raring to go with my 1959, George Wools EP-9 / Prospector!

hobgoblin · Dec 29, 2012, 03:22 PM

Hi, can I add another tailless to the build list please? Eric Clutton's tadpole for one of my idle pee wees. I think the design is from '65.

Thanks

Doncrashum · Dec 29, 2012, 05:53 PM

Im in with a King Harry from Aermodeller August '45. I...errrm... kinda built the the rudder last night because I forgot about the start date. Woops. So should I build another rudder or start a day late or just continue where I left off on New Years?

Sundancer · Dec 29, 2012, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doncrashum

Im in with a King Harry from Aermodeller August '45. I...errrm... kinda built the the rudder last night because I forgot about the start date. Woops. So should I build another rudder or start a day late or just continue where I left off on New Years?

I wouldn't be that cruel! Your rudder is hereby deemed to be "legal"!

JohnAV8R · 09:03 PM

" Frog Tomtit - Britplan Build Off January 2013 to June 2013",

Sundancer, I'm in for the challenge as well!

My build will be a Frog Tom Tit using your plan and article in the July edition of Quiet and Electric Flight International.

Sundancer’s build and plan shown here:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ghlight=tomtit

Magazine with article and full sized plans , see post #128

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=tomtit&page=9

John

kkphantom · 07:29 PM

I'm in with a Keil Kraft 'Strato Baby' This model didn't qualify for the Britkit build off because although it is a Bill Dean design for KK, it was never kitted so it's got to be a plan, yes? Anyway, I plan to install the wireless and electric bits (sorry applehoney!) from a defunct parkzone micro Corsair. See you in the new year! Gary

Warren B · Dec 29, 2012, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RFJ

I'll second that and, after thinking about it, the January - June contest period is probably the better choice.

My entry will be a scaled down 1950 Aeromodeller plan Manx Monarch.

Ray

Hi Ray, I'll watch with interest.
A Manx Monarch has been on my list for some time.
Eventually I'd like to build one for an American sparkie.
The original was powered by an Ohlsson Gold Seal, I was thinking a later Ohlsson, or Super Cyke and I saw one in a SAM 35 yearbook powered by a Contestor (have one of those too).
I read somewhere that it turns best on rudder, with the elevons just used as elevators.
Might be some interesting control mixing schemes to try out.
Good luck, but after your Frog wing, I'm sure you don't need it.

colibriguitars · Dec 30, 2012, 01:05 AM

Hi George!!
i want to know if this could be...
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Dec 28, 2012, 05:45 AM	#1
Sundancer I like real wooden aeroplanes! South-west France Joined Sep 2007 3,143 Posts	"Britplan" Build Off - 1st January 2013 to 30th June 2013 Half Time Update Post#156 The “Britkit Build Off” which ends on 31/12/2012 has proved reasonably popular, with 35 entries posting 32 build logs, which have been enjoyable, instructive and in some cases extremely entertaining. It looks likely that there will be some 23 finished models of huge variety by the closing date, ranging from a delightful 2 ounce electric R/C Dandy to a mighty 112” scaled up I.C. powered KK Junior 60 R/C, covering almost all types between and representing all the major kit manufacturers of the period. On the whole I would regard this as being a successful and worthwhile “contest” which has encouraged the production of some excellent models, I know I certainly enjoyed my builds and the completed models are now favourite performers. The poll for this build off will be posted on 01/01/2013, please be sure to go there, look at the photos and vote for your favourite. Thanks for those who have expressed interest in another Build Off and given their views on the qualifying and closing dates. There was a clear majority in favour of 31/12/1965 as the qualifying date but the closing date proved to be a tie between those preferring 31/12/2013 and those favouring a six month period, so I have exercised my casting vote in favour of a six month build off, we can always start another one in July (I already have an idea!). So, here are the “rules” Duration of build off; 1st January 2013 to 30th June 2013 (six months) Model built from any plan which appeared in any “professional” UK published magazine (i.e. NOT club and society newsletters) before 31/12/1965. By plan I mean a full size feature plan, a plan shown in reduced size and subsequently sold full size by the magazine OR a detailed structural three view for which no full size plans were offered. The model may be original size OR scaled up or down. The model may be powered by the original method or by any alternative – e.g. rubber or IC power converted to electric, IC power converted to rubber etc. The model may be flown as originally designed or converted to another flying method – e.g. F/F or C/L to radio, radio to F/F or C/L etc. Here is a list (NOT exhaustive) of qualifying magazines: Aeromodeller (including Aeromodeller Annual), Model Aircraft, Ian Allen Model Aviation/Planbook series, R.C.M & E, Hobbies Magazine, RAF Flying Review (yes, it did have a model section, they published some Bill Dean designs like the Rogue). This lot should produce many hundreds of plans to choose from. In order to qualify for the poll at the end of the build off the model must be completed, but not necessarily flown. As a minimum a photo and description of the finished model must be posted on the Build Off thread, but if possible a Build Log thread for the model is much preferred, please try and do one if at all possible. As before I will keep the first post of the thread up to date with entries, progress and build log links. When you have decided to enter a model, please post the details on this thread, if there is to be a build log please also post the link to that here too, particularly if it is to be in another forum - free flight or scale for example - once you start it, I will pick up and list any started on this forum, but can't look at all the others. If you title the build log thread "(Model) - Britplan Build Off January 2013 to June 2013" that would be a help. If you have any doubts about the eligibility of a particular models, just ask for a ruling. I'll start the ball rolling, build log to follow. Entry List Sundancer – Rubberdub (Aeromodeller) rubber model converted to electric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...8#post23657620 RFJ - Manx Monarch scaled down. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1812538 Finished 02/02/2013 Flown 28/02/2013 cpmcgraw - Envoy. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1797921 mixer421 - Edgar-Percival EP9. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1799648 Finished 20/03/2013 doncrashum - King Harry. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1800285 mrdj - Auster AOP9. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1797737 hobgoblin - President (Hatfull) Owlsabie - Paageboy. Build Log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1797372 Finished 29/03/2013 Flown 30/03/2013 John38 - Debutante x2. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1850447 Sparks59 - Coquette electric R/C Colibriguitars - Wee Snifter electric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1798662 Finished 26/01/2013 Flown 04/02/2013 RAF_Bob - Contra-Gyro R/E/T R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1800143 Applehoney - WLB4 (A/M 1943) rubber F/F. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1799627 Finished 19/04/2013 Sky Jiver - Stomper (G. Fuller). Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1801253 Colonel Blink - Dart Kitten (APS) eletric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...7#post23707600 cd_webb - Skyline Kitten electric R/C Build thread at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1807783 Finished 10/03/2013 Hoffboy - Sparky Electric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1802407 HarryD - Dunne tailless electric R/C. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...0#post24693971 Finished 10/05/2013 patmcc - Popsie patmcc - Flying Washboard cswee - Wendy (Model Aircraft plan). Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1803502 JohnAV8R - Peacemaker. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1804015 Ian Dale - Tadpole. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1810509 ECBoehm - Wren. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1#post23867803 Finished 27/02/2013. Flown 10/03/2013 John Moore - 1.3x President PeterH - Mamselle (electric R/C) Build thread at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1818850 Finished 12/05/2013 cpmcgraw - Mamselle (electric R/C) Build thread at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1823149 colibriguitars - Mam'selle (electric R/C) Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1823360 Finished and Flown 18/03/2013 edalpoe - Simplex (Stouffer) (IC radio) Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1824092 Finished 01/04/2013 Flown 27/04/2013 PeterH - Prestwick Pioneer (Burns) (Electric R/C) KKphantom - Skygipsy (Malmstrom). Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1832922 Finished and Flown 23/03/2013 flyinglog - Lulu (J. Barker) cd_webb - Titch (Warring) (Electric R/C) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1856745 Finished 09/03/2013 Flown 13/03/2013 propaplace - Lockheed Neptune (Bodey) warrenb - Sharkface for PAW 049. Build log at http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1883766
	Last edited by Sundancer; May 12, 2013 at 05:42 AM.

Dec 29, 2012, 06:51 PM	#12
JohnAV8R Registered User Ancaster, Ontario, Canada Joined Oct 2005 1,680 Posts	Frog Tomtit " Frog Tomtit - Britplan Build Off January 2013 to June 2013", Sundancer, I'm in for the challenge as well! My build will be a Frog Tom Tit using your plan and article in the July edition of Quiet and Electric Flight International. Sundancer’s build and plan shown here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ghlight=tomtit Magazine with article and full sized plans , see post #128 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=tomtit&page=9 John
	Last edited by JohnAV8R; Dec 29, 2012 at 09:03 PM. Reason: reference

Dec 29, 2012, 07:28 PM	#13
kkphantom Registered User Australia, WA, Perth Joined Nov 2010 522 Posts	I'm in with a Keil Kraft 'Strato Baby' This model didn't qualify for the Britkit build off because although it is a Bill Dean design for KK, it was never kitted so it's got to be a plan, yes? Anyway, I plan to install the wireless and electric bits (sorry applehoney!) from a defunct parkzone micro Corsair. See you in the new year! Gary
	Last edited by kkphantom; Dec 29, 2012 at 07:29 PM. Reason: .........

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colibriguitars Registered User Joined Mar 2011 888 Posts	Hi George!! i want to know if this could be... resized to 32" Images View all Images in thread Views: 183

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Dec 28, 2012, 05:31 PM	#2
Warren B Registered User Mt Evelyn, Melbourne, OZ Joined Dec 2008 385 Posts	I'm in - but with a delayed start as I am committed to making some progress on the old van seen in the background of my Junior build log. My entry will probably be a Sharkface with a throttled PAW 049. Many other plans are very tempting but I supect somthing very simple is best otherwise my resolve on the van might weaken. If I run right out of time there is always the all sheet Simplex. Does BritPlan extend to Aeromodeller Annuals? A Schiffermuller would be cute, but maybe this is pushing the BritPlan concept a bit? A vote of thanks to Sundancer for organising another great build off, can't wait to see the choices.

Dec 28, 2012, 08:24 PM	#3
cpmcgraw Experienced Balsa Mangler United States, AL, Tillmans Corner Joined Oct 2012 271 Posts	Sundancer, I'm in for the challenge as well! That Shaw "Envoy" looks nice, and I think I've got everything needed in my scrap pile to do it. Maybe only the covering and a handful of sundries to purchase. I'll start a build log as soon as I start cutting balsa...

Dec 29, 2012, 05:06 AM	#5
Warren B Registered User Mt Evelyn, Melbourne, OZ Joined Dec 2008 385 Posts	Obviously actually reading the text is not my strong point. Whoops!

Dec 29, 2012, 06:59 AM	#7
Sundancer I like real wooden aeroplanes! South-west France Joined Sep 2007 3,143 Posts	Oooo - a tailless model no less Ray! I'm looking forward to that!

Dec 29, 2012, 02:33 PM	#8
mixer421 Agricultural flyer United Kingdom, England, Kent Joined Aug 2007 500 Posts	I'm raring to go with my 1959, George Wools EP-9 / Prospector!

Dec 29, 2012, 03:22 PM	#9
hobgoblin Registered User United Kingdom, England, Birmingham Joined Oct 2012 4 Posts	Hi, can I add another tailless to the build list please? Eric Clutton's tadpole for one of my idle pee wees. I think the design is from '65. Thanks

Dec 29, 2012, 05:53 PM	#10
Doncrashum Nyuk nyuk nyuk Joined Jan 2008 80 Posts	Im in with a King Harry from Aermodeller August '45. I...errrm... kinda built the the rudder last night because I forgot about the start date. Woops. So should I build another rudder or start a day late or just continue where I left off on New Years?