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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:51 AM
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Thanks for the info.

I use deans on all my stuff. I'd just swap out the plugs on the esc. Ya $50 is WAY too much for this type of battery. HobbyPartz and HobbyKing will run $11-20 each.

A warbird that flies nice and has some retracts sounds pretty fun as well. I might save that for plane #2 though. The AeroSky Sky Trainer Im looking at pretty hard since the Dynam Cessna is out of stock (I found a site that listed mid-jan for instock date, but not waiting).

I figured they had LVC since using lipo. I usually dont drain my batts either all the way. I have a good hyperion dual charger (I race offroad) that will get the most out of any battery, so that kind of stuff Im ok with. I know it depends on what plane I end up with. But I've read that some people upgrade the motor/esc for performance if that is needed. So depending on plane and motor mount and size available, will determine what motor can be upgraded to?

Just curious, more in the thinking if I get a bird that is a bit underpowered for my tasting and want to upgrade. I didnt know if people upgraded these foam planes. I run Castle in all my offroad stuff, so I'm use to aftermarket and esc settings.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 03:02 PM
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The thing about foam planes is that most of the time you don't need to upgrade them. But, upgrading a plane, I have found, is a lot easier to upgrade than a car or truck; there just isn't a lot of stuff to screw and unscrew on a plane. I used to run electric/nitro cars and trucks last year and basically gave it up for airplanes. Airplanes are a LOT cheaper to maintain too. I still have a Traxxas Slayer Pro and a Losi Ten T and the price of those is equal to about 6-7 of my planes.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 10:21 PM
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Just my 2 cents worth, if you're looking for a good affordable warbird with retracts, check out the dynam T-28 Trojan ARF. I got it just recently and it is a nice plane
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Old Dec 29, 2012, 11:17 AM
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Wow, take it easy. I got my apprentice used for $50.00. The main problem I see with 3 channels, especially the smaller ones, is there's no roll control when a gust of wind hits it. You're going to need to learn aileron control sooner or later anyway. Also, the rudder on the right stick seems like a bad idea to me. You need to learn to steer on the ground, which is hard with a small tail dragger. When you graduate to 4 channels, you'll need to learn all over again with the left stick.
Wrong, wrong wrong. Don't listen to bad advice. A three channel plane rolls just like a 4 channel plane. You're not a learner and a 4-channel is appropriate. For unassisted newbies a 3-channel plane is by far the most appropriate choice. Everything Tucci says here is completely, totally, inarguably wrong. Disregard.
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Old Dec 29, 2012, 11:50 AM
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Get a DX6i system, that will serve you for a few years until you want to get into more complex models and want more channels or mixing features, etc. Spektrum/Horizon has good quick turn around support, not so with cheap off-brand systems. As far as ARF's go, Park Zone foamie models and replacement parts availablity from local hobby shops are a good bet.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 06:01 AM
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No thanks on the Gamma. Im not a beginner to planes or to RC for that matter. I will be starting with brushless and lipo and aileron. Otherwise I wouldnt even get back into flying.

Perfect description of an Ares Gamma Pro. I don't understand your problem there with a plane that exactly matches your specifications.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 08:44 AM
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Its plain and simple. I looked at the Gamma, and I dont like it. Plus, I want something more intermediate.
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So why are you asking if your mind is made up on a certain type of plane? What does "more intermediate" mean? BTW - the Ares Gamma PRO is an intermediate plane. She flies NOTHING like the 3 channel Gamma 370. The Gamma Pro has no dihedral in the wing and is about 3 times faster than the 3 channel Gamma 370. I have been flying about a year and have given away almost all of my trainers except my HZ Super Cub. I guarantee you that the Gamma 370 PRO will fly the wings off that AreroSky plane you're looking at and is way tougher to boot.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 11:50 AM
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Im not going with the AeroSky. I asked because I had no idea what to start looking at. Everyone has given me some good info though, and helped me a lot on what I need to be looking at.

I got the DX6(NO i) in the mail this weekend with two AR6000 rx's. Cant wait to use it. I know people dont like Banana Hobby, but the FMS Sky Trainer is where Im probably going to go. If the Dynam Trainer was in stock I'd order it. $80 is perfect, but sounds like it wont be in stock for another month. I can always pick it up later if I hate the FMS.
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Good choice on the FMS Sky Trainer. It has a more scale look than the Dynam version specially in the cockpit area and the color scheme is more attractive. The FMS has clear windshield and windows. The Dynam is solid foam.

I really prefer the FMS Skytrainer. However, having experience with crash damage on the similar but bigger 1400 FMS Cessna 182, the rear wing mounts proved difficult to repair and reinforce due to the its having a flimsier cockpit area. It will be easier to repair a solid fuselage.

As an aside, I find the Skyartec Cessna 182 5-channel with 980mm wingspan a very capable performer with the stock motor. It has a solid foam fuse and is equipped with flaps. Not as pretty as the FMS but can handle a little bit more hotdogging in the air (not really recommended as it was not designed for full aerobatics). This Skyartec is a high winger that can perform. You can watch BananaHobby's old video of this model.
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Old Dec 31, 2012, 02:29 PM
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I watched the build video from banana on the FMS. Looks pretty simple, I went ahead and ordered it.
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Old Jan 02, 2013, 11:22 AM
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I say again, that FMS Sky Trainer is NO trainer, but, to each his own. Good luck, please post a video of the maiden.
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I say again, that FMS Sky Trainer is NO trainer, but, to each his own. ....
OP knows that. He flew nitros so he's definitely not a newb and he wasn't looking for a trainer anyway.

Flying RC is like riding a bike. You never totally forget it. I believe an intermediate plane like the FMS 1100 Cessna 182 will serve him well.

Personally, I'd fly a simulator for a couple hours or find a friend who will let me fly his HZ Champ. A couple of batteries should do. This is only to jog the long term memory cells and not to really learn how to fly.
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Old Jan 02, 2013, 03:26 PM
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Yeah I think it will be just fine. No, I found that I actually did NOT want a true trainer. I almost just went with a war bird or 3D. But figured I'd step into something that was easy and fun to fly, hense asking what good trainers were out there. It did help having all the suggestions so I could hone in on what I thought would be a good fit. Since I didnt have any "air" stuff, I was looking at RTF's because they would come with everything that I dont have. I'm glad I picked up a radio so I wouldnt be forced to use RTF junk, plus then I can order cheaper ARF's or do a kit or two down the road.

As far as experience, yes like I posted I flew some nitro about 15yrs ago, neve crashed anything. Did a lot of simulator back then though. And when I step into my LHS's I usually jump on and fly whatever. Except choppers, I'd need some more hours logged to fly heli's.

chuck, I doubt I'll film the maiden. But if I can I will. I'll probably crash it just for you . Cant wait to get the FMS though. Does Banana ship fast?
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I think you should not start with a small plane. In my (limited) experience, the larger aircraft are easier to fly. Go ahead and bite the bullet and buy the Apprentice that comes with the DX5. You won't be sorry. Also I think that anyone who tries to tell you to learn on 3 channels is full of......

Oh yeah, get a sim too.
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