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kydawg1 · Dec 09, 2012, 08:17 PM

Has anyome else bought this bird besides me? So far Love it. Well done kit. Stock power is awesome.

http://www.thewingsmaker.com/airplan...name=COMMANDER EP (40) (Pre-assembled Combo)

simo71 · Dec 09, 2012, 08:47 PM

Been thinking of one to be honest....Got any pics?

kydawg1 · Dec 10, 2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by simo71

Been thinking of one to be honest....Got any pics?

I added no decals on top.... but only red stripes on wing bottoms.

King Pin · Dec 30, 2012, 11:18 PM

kydawg1, have you flown this plane? if so what did you think? Thanks KP

kydawg1 · Dec 31, 2012, 12:00 AM

Yep I have about 6 flights on it.....she is nice. FAST bird and glides forever with 4S 4000. I really like her, but have not had a chance to fly in calm air yet....I am sure I will like here even more. For the price it is great.

ltc · 07:59 AM

I have a couple of their balsa EP models from their other company, The World Models.
http://theworldmodels.com/
(US distributor: http://airborne-models.com/ )

They appear to have a very similar plane, called the Sunrise, 2 color trims available, which is under their free global shipping promotion ... Plane only or combo

http://ecsvr.com/twm/shopexd.asp?id=5833
http://ecsvr.com/twm/shopexd.asp?id=5832

(I just bought a Corsair combo along with some other parts (servos, Lipo sacks) from the free shipping list...turned out to be less than buying from their US distributor)

http://www.theworldmodels.us/shoppin...&shipping=free

http://www.theworldmodels.us/shoppingOnline/index.php (top left of page is Free Global shipping products)

robusp · Dec 31, 2012, 09:09 AM

I have two of their planes. They're made real good. My sunrise has hundreds of flights. Handyman has about 50. I like the prize, size and performance.
Only complaint I have is slight wing flex under load in sunrise and handyman's intolerance to cg shift. Variation of 1/4 of an inch in battery placement will make the plane misbehave.
Rob

King Pin · Dec 31, 2012, 04:40 PM

Thanks guys, I'm looking for a EPO 50" pattern plane to bang around at home. The Commander looks nicer than the HK Rainbow, any others out there??

ltc · Dec 31, 2012, 05:56 PM

Based on my dealings with Airborne Models, I would recommend them over anything from HK. Great support and parts availability.

ltc · Dec 31, 2012, 09:38 PM

Here is a link to a RCG thread for the Sunrise, the smaller version of the Commander
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1376916

ltc · Feb 06, 2013, 11:09 PM

Just ordered the Commander 40 EP from Airborne-Models.com.
Looking forward to the end of winter ... As I prepare for 24" of snow this weekend

ltc · Feb 07, 2013, 04:13 PM

OK, correction 36" of snow predicted

Just received Paypal confirmation of order. Did "one stop shopping" ... plane, servos, motor, motor mount, ESC and servos ... all TWM parts. $20 shipping seemed very reasonable.

Interesting to see how this one compares to the Super Taiji 40 EP.
EPO vs Balsa, yet the have the same wingspan, wing loading and AUW.

Probably going to do something similar to the Taiji EP on the bottom of the wings, a bit more visible than the stripes IMHO.

smarkturner · Feb 13, 2013, 07:49 AM

Has anyone putt a watt meter on the stock setup? Wondering if the recommended 40A ESC is adequate?

ltc · Feb 13, 2013, 08:34 AM

FWIW, as part of my one stop shopping, I ordered their ESC

http://ecsvr.com/abm/ShopDisplayproducts.asp?Search=Yes

Brushless Electronic Speed Controller KC2040A02A
Specification / Size: 55 x 28 x 12 mm. Package: 1 pc/pkg. Details: - Continuous Current: 40A - Burst Current (<10 seconds): 55A - BEC Output: 3A - Input: Li-ion / Li-poly 2 � 5 cells or Ni-mh / Ni-cd 5 � 15 cells - Weight: 33g with wires $35.00

It seems to have sufficient margin based on the specs for the supplied motor:

Brushless Motor KM0374810
Specification / Size: D37.2 x 48.5 mm. Package: 1 pc/pkg. -Max Speed: 13860rpm. -Kv (rpm/V): 770. -Operating Power: 450W. -Operating Voltage: 8.5-18V. -Operating Current: 30A. -Peak Current: 38A (max. 15 sec.). -Internal Resistance: 34 m ohms. -Diameter: 37.2mm. -Length: 48.5mm. -Weight: 172g. -Shaft Diameter: 5mm. -Mounting Screw: M3 (Front) and M2.5 (Back). -Distance of Mounting Holes: 25mm (Front), 15.5mm (Back).

Once I receive the kit (hopefully tomorrow, but perhaps delayed due to the winter storm) and get a battery, I will take an actual wattmeter reading and post it here.

ltc · Feb 13, 2013, 08:36 AM

Also probably going to not use the supplied decals. Instead, I am considering going with a paint scheme, derived from some old classic pattern planes I remember from "back in the day".

Testors enamel spray cans, nothing fancy, just for fun.

Dec 09, 2012, 08:17 PM	#1
kydawg1 Skeeterz RC - Michigan Motor City USA Joined Mar 2007 3,109 Posts	The Wings Maker COMMANDER 40 Has anyome else bought this bird besides me? So far Love it. Well done kit. Stock power is awesome. http://www.thewingsmaker.com/airplan...name=COMMANDER EP (40) (Pre-assembled Combo) Images View all Images in thread Views: 73

Dec 31, 2012, 07:48 AM	#6
ltc AMA 97737 United States, MA, Mendon Joined Mar 2010 1,091 Posts	I have a couple of their balsa EP models from their other company, The World Models. http://theworldmodels.com/ (US distributor: http://airborne-models.com/ ) They appear to have a very similar plane, called the Sunrise, 2 color trims available, which is under their free global shipping promotion ... Plane only or combo http://ecsvr.com/twm/shopexd.asp?id=5833 http://ecsvr.com/twm/shopexd.asp?id=5832 (I just bought a Corsair combo along with some other parts (servos, Lipo sacks) from the free shipping list...turned out to be less than buying from their US distributor) http://www.theworldmodels.us/shoppin...&shipping=free http://www.theworldmodels.us/shoppingOnline/index.php (top left of page is Free Global shipping products)
	Last edited by ltc; Dec 31, 2012 at 07:59 AM.

Dec 31, 2012, 09:09 AM	#7
robusp Takeoff=Option Landing=Must USA, NY, Depew Joined Jan 2009 660 Posts	I have two of their planes. They're made real good. My sunrise has hundreds of flights. Handyman has about 50. I like the prize, size and performance. Only complaint I have is slight wing flex under load in sunrise and handyman's intolerance to cg shift. Variation of 1/4 of an inch in battery placement will make the plane misbehave. Rob Images View all Images in thread Views: 48 Views: 52

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Dec 09, 2012, 08:47 PM	#2
simo71 The land down under Australia, NSW, Culburra Beach Joined Jul 2010 551 Posts	Been thinking of one to be honest....Got any pics?

Dec 30, 2012, 11:18 PM	#4
King Pin "ya can't get hurt in the air" United States, NY, Cazenovia Joined Oct 2009 141 Posts	kydawg1, have you flown this plane? if so what did you think? Thanks KP

Dec 31, 2012, 12:00 AM	#5
kydawg1 Skeeterz RC - Michigan Motor City USA Joined Mar 2007 3,109 Posts	Yep I have about 6 flights on it.....she is nice. FAST bird and glides forever with 4S 4000. I really like her, but have not had a chance to fly in calm air yet....I am sure I will like here even more. For the price it is great.

Dec 31, 2012, 04:40 PM	#8
King Pin "ya can't get hurt in the air" United States, NY, Cazenovia Joined Oct 2009 141 Posts	Thanks guys, I'm looking for a EPO 50" pattern plane to bang around at home. The Commander looks nicer than the HK Rainbow, any others out there??

Dec 31, 2012, 05:56 PM	#9
ltc AMA 97737 United States, MA, Mendon Joined Mar 2010 1,091 Posts	Based on my dealings with Airborne Models, I would recommend them over anything from HK. Great support and parts availability.

Dec 31, 2012, 09:38 PM	#10
ltc AMA 97737 United States, MA, Mendon Joined Mar 2010 1,091 Posts	Here is a link to a RCG thread for the Sunrise, the smaller version of the Commander http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1376916

Feb 06, 2013, 11:09 PM	#11
ltc AMA 97737 United States, MA, Mendon Joined Mar 2010 1,091 Posts	Just ordered the Commander 40 EP from Airborne-Models.com. Looking forward to the end of winter ... As I prepare for 24" of snow this weekend

Feb 07, 2013, 04:13 PM	#12
ltc AMA 97737 United States, MA, Mendon Joined Mar 2010 1,091 Posts	OK, correction 36" of snow predicted Just received Paypal confirmation of order. Did "one stop shopping" ... plane, servos, motor, motor mount, ESC and servos ... all TWM parts. $20 shipping seemed very reasonable. Interesting to see how this one compares to the Super Taiji 40 EP. EPO vs Balsa, yet the have the same wingspan, wing loading and AUW. Probably going to do something similar to the Taiji EP on the bottom of the wings, a bit more visible than the stripes IMHO.

Feb 13, 2013, 07:49 AM	#13
smarkturner Registered User United States, AZ, Prescott Joined Oct 2012 16 Posts	Has anyone putt a watt meter on the stock setup? Wondering if the recommended 40A ESC is adequate?

Feb 13, 2013, 08:34 AM	#14
ltc AMA 97737 United States, MA, Mendon Joined Mar 2010 1,091 Posts	FWIW, as part of my one stop shopping, I ordered their ESC http://ecsvr.com/abm/ShopDisplayproducts.asp?Search=Yes Brushless Electronic Speed Controller KC2040A02A Specification / Size: 55 x 28 x 12 mm. Package: 1 pc/pkg. Details: - Continuous Current: 40A - Burst Current (<10 seconds): 55A - BEC Output: 3A - Input: Li-ion / Li-poly 2 � 5 cells or Ni-mh / Ni-cd 5 � 15 cells - Weight: 33g with wires $35.00 It seems to have sufficient margin based on the specs for the supplied motor: Brushless Motor KM0374810 Specification / Size: D37.2 x 48.5 mm. Package: 1 pc/pkg. -Max Speed: 13860rpm. -Kv (rpm/V): 770. -Operating Power: 450W. -Operating Voltage: 8.5-18V. -Operating Current: 30A. -Peak Current: 38A (max. 15 sec.). -Internal Resistance: 34 m ohms. -Diameter: 37.2mm. -Length: 48.5mm. -Weight: 172g. -Shaft Diameter: 5mm. -Mounting Screw: M3 (Front) and M2.5 (Back). -Distance of Mounting Holes: 25mm (Front), 15.5mm (Back). Once I receive the kit (hopefully tomorrow, but perhaps delayed due to the winter storm) and get a battery, I will take an actual wattmeter reading and post it here.

Feb 13, 2013, 08:36 AM	#15
ltc AMA 97737 United States, MA, Mendon Joined Mar 2010 1,091 Posts	Also probably going to not use the supplied decals. Instead, I am considering going with a paint scheme, derived from some old classic pattern planes I remember from "back in the day". Testors enamel spray cans, nothing fancy, just for fun.