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Old Dec 09, 2012, 02:57 PM
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Mr. Obama Wants to Raise Everyone's Income Tax

If not he most certainly wouldn't sacrifice the rest of us for an additional 88 billion dollars from those with incomes over 250K.

But he sees a chance to get income from everyone by pretending to pretending to protect the 98% while in reality he is sacrificing all of us.

If you look at 2009 tax figures, he will only get approximately $394 billion from all of us and guess what? That will not come close to satisfying his spending desires and will also tend to wreck this train called America.

Why do you think he plans to do this?
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 03:10 PM
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Design or ignorance, perhaps both.
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 03:12 PM
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Design or ignorance, perhaps both.
All about the "Dreams from his Father". Cripple those perceived as colonialists.
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 03:31 PM
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If not he most certainly wouldn't sacrifice the rest of us for an additional 88 billion dollars from those with incomes over 250K.

But he sees a chance to get income from everyone by pretending to pretending to protect the 98% while in reality he is sacrificing all of us.

If you look at 2009 tax figures, he will only get approximately $394 billion from all of us and guess what? That will not come close to satisfying his spending desires and will also tend to wreck this train called America.

Why do you think he plans to do this?
Mr. Obama’s revenue total also reflects four other changes from Bush-era tax cuts: higher tax rates on investment income from capital gains and dividends, and the restoration of two other Clinton-era provisions limiting deductions and tax exemptions for affluent individuals.

Together those changes would raise $407.4 billion over a decade — nearly as much as the president’s proposal on higher rates, which would raise $441.6 billion by 2023, for a total of $849 billion. Another $119 billion would come from higher estate taxes.
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 03:31 PM
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The economy boomed after the two last tax increases: the 1982 Reagan tax increase (the largest in modern history which reversed the increase in unemployment caused by the 1981 Reagan tax cut), and the 1993 Clinton tax increase (the second largest in modern history which caused the GOP back then to foam at the mouth and predict the end of the US as we know it).
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"Fear", it's what's for dinner....
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 03:43 PM
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Drunk on the koolaid again.
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 03:49 PM
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Certainly don't drink the Obamanaid as it is too close to the Jim Jones concoction.
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 04:42 PM
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That's hilarious considering Jim Jones was a religious fundamentalist zealot, Lyle.
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 04:44 PM
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Obama needs to stop campaigning and start meeting with the House to get a deal done. If he doesn't, I believe he gets the blame for the US going over the "cliff". It's the Obama Economy now that he won re-election.
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 05:03 PM
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That's hilarious considering Jim Jones was a religious fundamentalist zealot, Lyle.
No Crazy, that was the disguise he wore, just as being concerned for the working man is the disguise that Mr. Obama wears. Jim Jones never showed what he really was till he knew his ass was gone and the same will be true of Mr. Obama.
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"Fear", it's what's for dinner....
Never mistake awareness of your surrounding as fear, it is just knowing what the hell is really going on.
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 05:14 PM
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What ever obama wants is what America will get. Get use to it.
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No Crazy, that was the disguise he wore
No true scotsman.
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Old Dec 09, 2012, 08:03 PM
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I've has some training on negotiation, so I am less upset that I might be. What we are seeing is pretty typical of early stages of negotiation. Getting ready to negotiate, one thinks through the matter and sets up three goals. The first is the best outcome one could reasonably expect, the second is what one would be pleased to have, and the third is worst that one is willing to live with. Negotiations start at the first position and work their way down to a final deal. Negotiation doesn't work unless both sides are negotiating in good faith, of course.
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