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Old Jan 07, 2013, 10:58 AM
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Yep, we have them in house right now and are programming/testing/packaging them.
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Old Jan 07, 2013, 03:27 PM
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Will Nanos be available on your web site after the Toledo show? Will the price be the same? Will there be a restriction on the purchase quantity?
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Old Jan 07, 2013, 04:32 PM
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Toledo is in April. I am putting on some Nanos later today. The problem is that we are leaving for the AMA show and I don't want to have a huge backup of shipping right before leave.

The price is the same. There are never restrictions on quantities for regular priced items.
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Old Jan 07, 2013, 04:49 PM
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Jim,

Set aside a few Nano-E for me please!

See you in a few days.

Pat
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Old Jan 07, 2013, 05:39 PM
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Will do Pat! Seeya soon!
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Old Jan 07, 2013, 10:30 PM
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I tried to order two Nanos tonight but ran into a problem. When I went to check out, I was ask to create a Paypal account. I DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PAYPAL. What gives. Isn't my Master Card good enough.
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Old Jan 08, 2013, 09:19 AM
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With the change in XPS, I dropped the credit card merchant service. We were getting 50-100 fraudulent orders every day, and have for a few years. I got tired of dealing with that mess.

We have never had an issue with Paypal, and they handle all credit cards without needing a Paypal account. You just choose the credit card option instead of account option. I may look into other merchant services in the future.
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Old Jan 08, 2013, 10:56 AM
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Jim,

I too looked at this and started an order for a Nano. But when you get to the checkout page, it only give options to pay with your PayPal account, or create a PayPal account to pay with a credit card.

I use PP checkout too, and I recall seeing the second option being something like "Check out anonymously using a Credit Card". Maybe PP had a recent change to their checkout procedure? I need to look at mine too.

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Old Jan 08, 2013, 11:13 AM
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It looks like if you have a Paypal cookie, it pulls that up automatically with your Paypal account, otherwise it asks you to select a payment method.
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Old Jan 08, 2013, 07:29 PM
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With the change in XPS, I dropped the credit card merchant service. We were getting 50-100 fraudulent orders every day, and have for a few years. I got tired of dealing with that mess.

We have never had an issue with Paypal, and they handle all credit cards without needing a Paypal account. You just choose the credit card option instead of account option. I may look into other merchant services in the future.
I understand using Paypal to handle credit card sales. I just don't my name on any more credit cards. Every additional account is just one more chance for a hacker to raid my accounts. About 20 years ago, I investigated Paypal for selling some of my model plotting software and didn't like what I saw when I did a careful reading of the terms of service. I have never had a Paypal accound so don't understand how I could have a Paypal cookie in my sytem. I am in no hurry for more receivers so I will reorder after they are back.
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Old Jan 08, 2013, 08:37 PM
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You don't get a Paypal credit card unless you actually apply for one. With Paypal, you can activate and de-activate your bank account link whenever you like.

We have sold MILLIONS of dollars worth of products through Paypal, and have never had any customers with fraudulent transactions. It is by far, the safest means for customers (and businesses) to do online business.
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Old Jan 09, 2013, 01:42 PM
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I understand using Paypal to handle credit card sales. I just don't my name on any more credit cards. Every additional account is just one more chance for a hacker to raid my accounts. About 20 years ago, I investigated Paypal for selling some of my model plotting software and didn't like what I saw when I did a careful reading of the terms of service. I have never had a Paypal accound so don't understand how I could have a Paypal cookie in my sytem. I am in no hurry for more receivers so I will reorder after they are back.
Here is what you can do. Open a second checking account with, say, $100 in it. Creat the paypal account and link it to that account. You can then add a CC as a backup. If you get hacked, they can only hack to the bank account, in which you keep minimal funds. The best CC to link is American Express (which is a charge card, not a CC anyway). Paypal will do zip for a buyer who gets screwed, but AX will go to the mat for you and force a charge-back to Ppl, who will then be forced to charge-back the vendor. Sadly, this has worked for me, several times.

I know this doesn't help you get a nano today...
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Old Jan 09, 2013, 02:54 PM
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Paypal is VERY aggressive for the buyer. I had my Paypal debit card duplicated by a Hertz rental car agent while in Florida. The information was sent (within hours) to one of their friends in Missouri who created a fake card and bought merchandise from several Home Depots. I got a call from Paypal's fraud security department asking what state I was actually in, and when I told them Florida they informed that someone has duplicated the card and is on a buying spree in Missouri. While I was on the phone, another charge went through. They cancelled the card and credited my account immediately. Also, they called me back a week later and asked if I knew of a person matching a description they gave me. Paypal's fraud department obtained video tape footage from Home Depot of 'my' card being used. The person was later located and arrested.
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Old Jan 09, 2013, 03:20 PM
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I understand using Paypal to handle credit card sales. I just don't my name on any more credit cards. Every additional account is just one more chance for a hacker to raid my accounts. About 20 years ago, I investigated Paypal for selling some of my model plotting software and didn't like what I saw when I did a careful reading of the terms of service. I have never had a Paypal accound so don't understand how I could have a Paypal cookie in my sytem. I am in no hurry for more receivers so I will reorder after they are back.
I thought ChuckA was wrong for sure, as I have credit cards processed for my company through Paypal the same way and none of my customers have to have a Paypal account to do it. They all have a link that says "Process card without an account" link at the bottom. I went through the XPS checkout though, and sure enough there is no link (sorry for doubting you ChuckA!).

Jim, if you activate your Paypal account for "Paypal Here" which is free, you can instantly take credit cards through an app on your Android or IOS device. Then your customers could call you with a CC number and you could process the order that way. They will send you the free reader too, which you could use when you go to trade shows.

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Old Jan 09, 2013, 03:37 PM
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OK, so you guys are not so crazy afterall...

I tried checking out several times today and had the same issue with no credit card option being available. I spent an hour on the phone with Paypal today to figure out the mystery. They have a technical glitch with their system. In the website options, there is the option to use "optional account" with a ON/OFF button. Well, it turns out that after some experimenting that the button selection is backwards!! It must be OFF for the optional account to be used. Credit cards should now be able to be processed without having to have a Paypal account. HOWEVER, I was told that if the email address you are using is associated with a Paypal account, it can trigger Paypal to automatically select your Paypal account (but the option to not use it, and use a separate credit card is still available).

We have "Paypal Here". We use it for trade shows. We do not accept phone orders.
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