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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:29 PM
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I didn't know that big guy sitting in the chair in the Lincoln Memorial was Karl Marx, silly me.
If you have trouble naming any of history's great conservatives, then you truly don't know what Political Conservatism is, (as it pertains to America) and are ignorant of American history and its founding. I'll help you out and throw a few names out there for you:
John Locke
Alexis de Tocqueville
Charles de Montesquieu
Do some research, educate yourself, it's fun!
The problem is that none of those people would pass the GOP purity tests of today's Conservative right wing. They'd get Teaparty primaried out faster than you can say "RINO"... (So would Ronald Reagan, for that matter)
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:30 PM
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I didn't know that big guy sitting in the chair in the Lincoln Memorial was Karl Marx, silly me.
If you have trouble naming any of history's great conservatives, then you truly don't know what Political Conservatism is, (as it pertains to America) and are ignorant of American history and its founding. I'll help you out and throw a few names out there for you:
John Locke
Alexis de Tocqueville
Charles de Montesquieu
Do some research, educate yourself, it's fun!
If you claim Lincoln as equivalent to a modern conservative, how do you distill out all those modern conservatives calling for secession?
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:32 PM
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"Thinking doesn't make things so"
Great thinkers to whom?

I'm sorry that you have forgotten one of the greatest conservatives of all time.
Ronald Reagan.
Now thats a real LAUGH! The guy that raised taxes, left Lebanon after several suicide bombings, and was involved in Iran/Contra.....please continue
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 11:17 PM
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Hey Pipe

I know you don't know much about ships, but

USS Ronald Reagan

USS Bush
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 07:11 AM
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USS Gerald Ford.

You don't even have to be elected president to get an aircraft carrier named after you if you wer a Republican president.
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 07:20 AM
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Is there a USS Carter?
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 07:23 AM
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Yep. A sub, not an aircraft carrier.
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 07:26 AM
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I was raised by two Democrats, who in NO way could be called liberal. For those that say that the "right" has gone too far, I submit to you that BOTH the parties have gone way too far in their respective ideaology. Liberals, and Liberalism is completely ridiculous, and the far right is as well. I prefer to meet somewhere in the middle, and be governed Constitutionally!
I see some on here who have gone off the deep end both ways, and to me it scares the crap outta me for my kid and possible grandkids future, especially with the clown we have in the White House now...
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 07:33 AM
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Yep. A sub, not an aircraft carrier.
Is it shaped like a peanut?
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 08:13 AM
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Has anyone here ever known anyone who abandoned Conservatism (or something similar) and gone all out Liberal ? (Without some type of serious head trauma, that is.)
Romney from nomination to presidential election campaign?
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 08:22 AM
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Now thats a real LAUGH! The guy that raised taxes, left Lebanon after several suicide bombings, and was involved in Iran/Contra.....please continue
but isnt raising taxes a good thing now that your hero is doing it?
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 08:36 AM
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but isnt raising taxes a good thing now that your hero is doing it?
My understanding is, Reagan raised taxes quite a bit MORE.
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 08:37 AM
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The USA is becoming more Liberal/Socialist as it becomes less and less moral.
Correlation does not equal causation.
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 08:39 AM
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Say what you will about Reagan but you can not argue with his results. Oh wait, maybe you can.
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Old Dec 06, 2012, 08:40 AM
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LIberals think that if they can control enough they can make things fair.

Conservatives think that the more things are controlled, the less fair they become.

The first is ideology. The second is facing reality.
Many conservatives don't want any controls AT ALL, but that only works if people act responsibly...
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