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Old Dec 05, 2012, 07:38 PM
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:26 PM
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Honestly I think the op is on the right track. The federal government can't even enforce the laws they have now. Let them make rules and play at control. They are on the verge of insolvency. Many Mexican people ignore federal laws when they come to America "illegally", but our legislature is now saying that's ok. So the question is, why shouldn't Americans follow suit? The government is supposed to be of the people. Well here we have a government which is dictating to us, and not allowing logical discourse and rebuttal, and even admitting the same! That is overreaching and unsustainable. It is also represhensible.
Amen brother, we get the Government we tolerate.
If you think about it, people break this rule everyday. The model aircraft companies break it when test and demo flying their products. Futaba and others have paid demo pilots. If you compete for any prizes, if your local hobby shop test flys an aircraft they have fixed for a fee. If you even fly an RC aircraft for someone that you plan on selling it to.
If the FAA starts to bust our chops we should all start reporting each and every one of these horrific violations.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:36 PM
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Amen brother, we get the Government we tolerate.
If you think about it, people break this rule everyday. The model aircraft companies break it when test and demo flying their products. Futaba and others have paid demo pilots. If you compete for any prizes, if your local hobby shop test flys an aircraft they have fixed for a fee. If you even fly an RC aircraft for someone that you plan on selling it to.
If the FAA starts to bust our chops we should all start reporting each and every one of these horrific violations.

Today I treat our federal government with the same level of respect that they treat the taxpaying citzens with.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:38 PM
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Amen brother, we get the Government we tolerate.
If you think about it, people break this rule everyday. The model aircraft companies break it when test and demo flying their products. Futaba and others have paid demo pilots. If you compete for any prizes, if your local hobby shop test flys an aircraft they have fixed for a fee. If you even fly an RC aircraft for someone that you plan on selling it to.
If the FAA starts to bust our chops we should all start reporting each and every one of these horrific violations.
Awesome post. Things need to change. This country is going to hell in a hand basket. I love America, but the people running it need to go!

I have read a lot of stuff about how the idea American dream is dead.. It is true, politics killed it.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:47 PM
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Today I treat our federal government with the same level of respect that they treat the taxpaying citzens with.
You Terrorist.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:57 PM
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Don't you guys speed in your cars
And do many things against the law

When's the last time you had three beers instead of egalitarian limit of say two

I say the police

Who really cares and who really does care
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:58 PM
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How do the RC model magazines get away with aircraft flight reviews. They are flying an RC aircraft outside the hobby. They are serial law breakers, they have test flown thousands of SUAS in the NAS. Then they mockingly take pictures and post videos all in the name of horrible profit. They mock the FAA every month with a brand new issue, this horrific flaunting of the law must stop!!!
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:01 PM
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How do the RC model magazines get away with aircraft flight reviews. They are flying an RC aircraft outside the hobby. They are serial law breakers, they have test flown thousands of SUAS in the NAS. Then they mockingly take pictures and post videos all in the name of horrible profit. They mock the FAA every month with a brand new issue, this horrific flaunting of the law must stop!!!
LOL pass enough laws and everyone's a criminal. We're getting there quickly.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:02 PM
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How does the USA fly drones without permission

They just do it
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:08 PM
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How does the USA fly drones without permission

They just do it
The US Government thinks it owns the World, if you have a problem with that they simply kill you and call you a Terroist. It has worked pretty well for a while but the people of the World are starting to wake up.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:33 PM
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Tarro your question is invalid because you left camera on plane out of the equation

Filming from ground up to your plane, and profiting, legal.

From plane to anywhere while in the sky, without commercial acknowledgment by faa, illegal

If you want to taxi your plane and film/sell that's legal. If it rises off ground in sustained flight you can't.
you can profit off rc planes flying in the nas with magazine features as long as the footage didn't come from the air.
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Tarro your question is invalid because you left camera on plane out of the equation

Filming from ground up to your plane, and profiting, legal.

From plane to anywhere while in the sky, without commercial acknowledgment by faa, illegal

If you want to taxi your plane and film/sell that's legal. If it rises off ground in sustained flight you can't.
you can profit off rc planes flying in the nas with magazine features as long as the footage didn't come from the air.
But many plane manufactures are including gopro or other on-board camera footage in their product advertisements.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:36 PM
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I've seen still shots taken from the air posted in mags

And i pointed out how the jackass crew did it illegally in the second movie

People are mostly unsure how to make a distinction between commercial and civilian

They get hollow threats from the officials etc its all wierd.
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Honestly I think the op is on the right track. The federal government can't even enforce the laws they have now. Let them make rules and play at control. They are on the verge of insolvency. Many Mexican people ignore federal laws when they come to America "illegally", but our legislature is now saying that's ok. So the question is, why shouldn't Americans follow suit? The government is supposed to be of the people. Well here we have a government which is dictating to us, and not allowing logical discourse and rebuttal, and even admitting the same! That is overreaching and unsustainable. It is also represhensible.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:39 PM
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But many plane manufactures are including gopro or other on-board camera footage in their product advertisements.
It only matters if its a uav.

Wingsuits you can fly and profit.

That's the ludicrous nature at hand
For some reason you can hurl your own body for death and certain profit but not a tiny piece of foam +fpv setup.

Ridiculous, but the rules are pretty easy to distinguish if one hangs in the rulemaking thread up top long enough.
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