Originally Posted by Steve85

Oh, please. American culture is closer to that of the West Bank and Gaza than to Canada? And Canada's culture is closer to Kyrgystan's than the US? You'll have to do better than that.

If you would even bother to examine the demographics of the areas of the United States that really up the death rates by guns you will find that they skew the statistics of the whole country. If you through out drug related killings alone, it was make a huge difference. The culture of the United States varies greatly between the high population areas like Chicago and the real heart of America.

Originally Posted by Steve85

Yup. And I can outrun them too. A .40 S&W on the other hand will catch up to me every time.

Nope.

You can't outrun an arrow.

Neither can you outrun a thrown object.

Originally Posted by Steve85

Oh, please. American culture is closer to that of the West Bank and Gaza than to Canada? And Canada's culture is closer to Kyrgystan's than the US? You'll have to do better than that.

In some parts of the US that are heavy into violent crimes they are closer to Gaza than Canada. It's sad but true.

Originally Posted by Steve85

Bow and arrow? I keep seeing Steve Martin...

Seriously, guys, the elephant is right there in the room with you. On the other hand, you're probably past the point of no return; it's not like you're ever going to be able to police up 300 million guns, even if you were all willing.

Why not just accept that more gun-related deaths are "the cost of doing business" in a nation so gun-obsessed?

The gun isn't the elephant in the room. The gun is a scapegoat.

Originally Posted by Steve85

Okay, then how about the chances that someone IN YOUR GUN-OWNING HOME dying through gun-related homicide being twice as high as in a home where there are no guns?

1. Did you exclude gang related deaths in that number?
2. Did you exclude felons or ex-felons in that number?
3. Did you exclude those with a history of domestic violence in that number?

In other words,


4. What is the number for law abiding homeowners or their families? Betcha, its not double.

Originally Posted by Sport Flyer

Of course not. It's also the three-down football that helps to civilize us. American criminals are much worse than criminals throughout the rest of the world. And nastier. Perhaps its all the guns.

We know this by all the beheadings and mass graves found in the U.S.

Indiana Jones : Sword vs. Gun (0 min 15 sec)

Originally Posted by wrightme

Nope.

You can't outrun an arrow.

Neither can you outrun a thrown object.

Okay. You got me. How many bow-and-arrow and ninja throwing-star homicides were there in the US last year?

Originally Posted by Steve85

Oh, please. American culture is closer to that of the West Bank and Gaza than to Canada? And Canada's culture is closer to Kyrgystan's than the US? You'll have to do better than that.

Nope, strawman.

They weren't correlated.

Originally Posted by Steve85

Okay, then how about the chances that someone IN YOUR GUN-OWNING HOME dying through gun-related homicide being twice as high as in a home where there are no guns?

BS. Got data?

Originally Posted by Steve85

Yup. And I can outrun them too. A .40 S&W on the other hand will catch up to me every time.

I don't think even an olympic sprinter can run 400 fps, but I guess you can. Btw, check out a video called "surviving edged weapons," it will show just why you should bring a knife to a gun fight.

Originally Posted by Steve85

Okay. You got me. How many bow-and-arrow and ninja throwing-star homicides were there in the US last year?

Red herring.

Guns Don't Kill People, Bullets Kill People.

Anyone arguing that firearms do not offer protection from man or beast is incapable of understanding what they provide for the average Joe. Criminals use guns in order to intimidate victims primarily. Not gonna get an unarmed man to actively challenge an armed man. A man with a knife or a brick is an armed man also.

Originally Posted by Steve85

Okay. You got me. How many bow-and-arrow and ninja throwing-star homicides were there in the US last year?

Not sure of the total, but here is a recent one for you;

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/02...uicide-attack/


Funny how that idiot Costas didn't rant about this one...