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Old Nov 16, 2012, 08:01 AM
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New FLY FLY BAE Hawk 100 Composite - Maiden video

Look at what the Post Office had for me today.

Received the kit today well packed and protected. First impression of the kit is good with it being slightly bigger than what I expected. The quality of the glassing is good and all round appearance is impressive.

I was really suprised with the hardware supplied, especially the oleo's and wheels.

The intended setup will be with a CS12b and HET 700/68 1500kv on 7s.

I know that this is probably the same as the SM from Kin, but I think that they are producing from the FLYFLY factory.

I will build this model over the following few weeks and post as I go along.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 08:43 AM
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Where did you order this? can you post a link?
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 08:51 AM
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Where did you order this? can you post a link?
Dont, think that they are in full production yet. I am building this as a test unit for them - no manual yet
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 08:59 AM
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Can you post the wing span and fuse length? Wheel sizes too...
Thanks
PS Do you know if they have any other new 90mm models pending?
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 09:37 AM
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Can you post the wing span and fuse length? Wheel sizes too...
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PS Do you know if they have any other new 90mm models pending?
Wingspan - 1210mm
Length - 1510mm
Wheels 60mm rear 47mm front.

Not sure if they are planning any other kits.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 10:07 AM
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Thanks! It is a fair bit larger than the HK 90mm composite hawk, which is a good thing. Looking forward to your build.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 10:40 AM
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Sounds like they made a mold of their foamy and built a composite...smart

What is the empty weight of the kit?

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Old Nov 16, 2012, 10:58 AM
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This is a thread discussing Smartmodel models....

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ght=smartmodel

and their site.....

The Hawk is on sale $430 shipped....


http://smartmodel.com.hk/products/pr...sub_cat_id=232
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 11:46 AM
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Sounds like they made a mold of their foamy and built a composite...smart

What is the empty weight of the kit?

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Dont think that this is a mold of the foamy - way too slick and different size.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 11:47 AM
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This is a thread discussing Smartmodel models....

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ght=smartmodel

and their site.....

The Hawk is on sale $430 shipped....


http://smartmodel.com.hk/products/pr...sub_cat_id=232
I agree that this is probably the same kit, but I think that SM and FLYFLY are working together on this.
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That's a nice sized model.
Looking forward to your progress!
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 07:44 PM
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saw these on flea bay a few days ago. look nice i likey
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 02:08 AM
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I have decided to start with the tail feathers on this bird. Like with any kit, you need to think a few steps ahead to prevent building yourself into a corner.

The elevator has a single leaver that needs to be connected to the servo. The problem is having access to the servo and system after the fan assembly has been installed. I would also like to have it as close as possible to the servo to prevent any slack and play. The closest point to have access to the servo would be the top hatch and is not too far from the elevator assembly. I would also need to drill holes in the formers along the way to accomodate the pushrod which would also help to allign the rod and prevent too much play. It is obviously better doing the drill work before fixing the formers.

I also had a look at the ducting. The supplied ducting is of good quality but it seems as if they had a 100mm unit in mind, as it is larger than the 90mm fan. I would create a reducer between the current ducting and the fan. I cannot see how a 100mm unit would be viable as the exit hole is 74mm whic is at the limit for a 90mm fan , and would surely be too small for exit on a 100mm fan. There is not any space to enlarge the exit currently.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 09:23 AM
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These Hawks are for sale at Smartmodel (as posted earlier).
http://smartmodel.com.hk/products/pr...sub_cat_id=232
On their site they are listed as a 100mm-90mm EDF model. The ducting would have to accommodate the larger fan but a 74mm exit does sound too small (for 100mm). If it was my plane I would plan on a high powered 90mm (8 to 10s) to carry the weight and get the most out of the small intakes.
Speaking of intakes, look at the 4 models on the SM site and the brown camo version has noticeably smaller intakes. They look great, but I doubt they would be enough for even a 90mm fan.
Are there any "cheater holes" in your kit?
Thanks!

PS That picture with the fan and duct.... Is that the intake duct? Is there an exit duct/tube?
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 11:11 AM
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These Hawks are for sale at Smartmodel (as posted earlier).
http://smartmodel.com.hk/products/pr...sub_cat_id=232
On their site they are listed as a 100mm-90mm EDF model. The ducting would have to accommodate the larger fan but a 74mm exit does sound too small (for 100mm). If it was my plane I would plan on a high powered 90mm (8 to 10s) to carry the weight and get the most out of the small intakes.
Speaking of intakes, look at the 4 models on the SM site and the brown camo version has noticeably smaller intakes. They look great, but I doubt they would be enough for even a 90mm fan.
Are there any "cheater holes" in your kit?
Thanks!

PS That picture with the fan and duct.... Is that the intake duct? Is there an exit duct/tube?
There are no cheater holes. The picture is the ducting from the front. I cannot imagine that a 100mm would work due to the small rear ducting and the elevator assembly almost in the way. The weight of a 100mm unit will also push up the weight which I think could make it too heavy. I think it would be in the same range and wing loading of the CMP Hawk.
My target weight is on about 4kg - but would need to see how that pans out. I am hoping to get about 2500watt out of my setup which should push the Hawk along nicely.

The bottom 2 pictures on the SM site is not of their own Hawk. The top 2 are the Hawk's in question - think the others are different turbines. If you look at the top 2 pictures, you will also notice the FLYFLY branding on the models just below the 2012.
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