Originally Posted by steelfaith1

Current round?...its been ongoing and i place full blame on Hamas for not being able to live with their neighbors.

Yes, the current round. It began when Israel broke the ceasefire.

So you think it was entirely Hamas' fault that Israel broke the ceasefire.

Dusty

Originally Posted by Dusty1000

How would you dispute the reasons he provided?

I'm sure he knows more about it than you or I do.

Dusty

You posted information suggesting Israel couldn't conduct any major military operation without US approval.

I'm just wondering if you would post propaganda even if you disbelieved it.

Originally Posted by Dusty1000

So you think it was entirely Hamas' fault that Israel broke the ceasefire.

Dusty

The violent conflict in and surrounding Gaza is entirely the fault of Hamas.

Originally Posted by Michael in Toronto

Not a strong argument.

Proposals are nice, but recognition is what`s needed (there have been plenty of peaceful times, and there have been opportunities before so many settlements were built, and there were opportunities before 1967).

So you do actually expect the Arabs to recognise Israel, as it continues to expand into Arab land? Can't you see that this is unrealistic?

In 1967 the Palestinians were mostly a population who had been expelled from their homes, and/or refused the right of return. As that has changed, so has the position of the Arab countries, which weren't prepared to recognise Israel under any circumstances.

No proposal short of a temporary truce has ever come from Hamas.

As I've demonstrated before, Hamas' position is closer to international consensus, and international law, than is Israel's position.

Dusty

Originally Posted by Dusty1000

Yes, the current round. It began when Israel broke the ceasefire.

So you think it was entirely Hamas' fault that Israel broke the ceasefire.

Dusty

Yes, i blame them for every rocket launched against God's Chosen.

Originally Posted by Michael in Toronto

You posted information suggesting Israel couldn't conduct any major military operation without US approval.

That doesn't answer the question.

I'm just wondering if you would post propaganda even if you disbelieved it.

What reasons given in the video do you not accept?

Dusty

Originally Posted by Dusty1000

So you do actually expect the Arabs to recognise Israel, as it continues to expand into Arab land? Can't you see that this is unrealistic?

In 1967 the Palestinians were mostly a population who had been expelled from their homes, and/or refused the right of return. As that has changed, so has the position of the Arab countries, which weren't prepared to recognise Israel under any circumstances.



As I've demonstrated before, Hamas' position is closer to international consensus, and international law, than is Israel's position.

Dusty

This is where your premise is wrong. Its not arab land, it was given to the Jews.
Guess you already know what the future borders will be, eh?

Originally Posted by Michael in Toronto

The violent conflict in and surrounding Gaza is entirely the fault of Hamas.

But it began long before Hamas existed.

Originally Posted by steelfaith1

Yes, i blame them for every rocket launched against God's Chosen.

So do you blame Israel for every bullet, missile, and shell, fired at Gaza, or are you going to demonstrate your double standards again?

Dusty

Originally Posted by steelfaith1

This is where your premise is wrong. Its not arab land, it was given to the Jews.
Guess you already know what the future borders will be, eh?

No, it wasn't ''given to the Jews.''

I take it you don't interpret the Bible literally then, eh?

Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro at Anti-Zionist Protest in Washington DC 1 (9 min 51 sec)

Originally Posted by Dusty1000

So do you blame Israel for every bullet, missile, and shell, fired at Gaza, or are you going to demonstrate your double standards again?

Dusty

No blame when defense or retaliation are involved.

Originally Posted by Dusty1000

No, it wasn't ''given to the Jews.''

I take it you don't interpret the Bible literally then, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChQLH71HAo4

If you take the Bible literally, then yes, it was given to the Jews for all time, specifically the descendants of Jacob.

Originally Posted by Dusty1000

No, it wasn't ''given to the Jews.''

I take it you don't interpret the Bible literally then, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChQLH71HAo4

Anti-Israel rabbis....lol
Not worth watching as i already know their stance....kinda like yours.

Yep, just checked Genesis and it was given to old Abe and his descendants.
May he give you and your descendants the blessing given to Abraham, so that you may take possession of the land where you now reside as a foreigner, the land God gave to Abraham.

Religion has poo to do with this. Missiles and rockets are not Bible or Koran passages.

Originally Posted by steelfaith1

No blame when defense or retaliation are involved.

So you don't blame the Palestinians for retaliating when Israel broke the ceasefire?

Dusty