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Old Dec 09, 2003, 03:01 AM
ben wilson
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[RCSE] Finding Slope Sites with Topo Maps


Having just recently been introduced to the soaring-crack that is slope
soaring (and the closest slope being some 45 minutes away at top speed), I
was wondering if anyone had any experience using topo maps to find decent
slope soaring sites.

The ACME Mapper (http://acme.com/mapper/) not only has satellite photos,
but has topo maps as well. For instance, I seem to remember some decent,
possibly tree-free (or tree-thin) hills in the south of town, so I pointed
the mapper in that direction and got to looking:

http://acme.com/mapper/?lat=38.10101...ight=4&dot=Yes

This is, as you might imagine, more of a scouting tool than anything else,
and I have yet to get out and to have any visual contact with this area.
We'll see how it goes.

Now, those of you in California with your ridge-front property may be
laughing, but hey -- here in Kentucky, we'll take our hills as we can get
them (and at least we aren't Kansas )

Peace, Love and a Dispatch from Gordy Stahl LIVE from the Moon--

ben wilson
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Old Dec 09, 2003, 03:01 AM
Martin Usher
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Re: [RCSE] Finding Slope Sites with Topo Maps

Neat resource, but the photographs -- at least the ones at my location --
are at least 10 years out of date. Ten years is a long time in LoCal, long
enough for large chunks of undisturbed land to turn into very developed
land.

For example, a 'traditional' west-facing slope site in Thousand Oaks, CA, is
at:-

http://acme.com/mapper/?lat=34.18604...ight=2&dot=Yes

The dot is centered on the area where people fly. The area just to the east
going practically to the edge of the photograph is now up-market housing.
The area to the west, the slope proper, is still undeveloped but its not for
a lack of trying, people just need to wait long enough for the council to
forget why there's no housing on that slope (its an old landslide area). So
what looks like a rather extensive site is really just the area bounded by
the visible trails, an area that's constantly shrinking.

And this is a "low growth" city in a "slow growth" county.

It looks like a good tool, though. If the pictures were stereoscopic then it
would be perfect!

Martin Usher

PS. Most LoCal hills are not suitable for flying on....they're difficult to
get up (steep, rocky and the local vegetation is hostile). There are some
good sites but not as many as you'd think.

PPS. Topo maps are not that useful around here. The USGS ones I've seen are
so old that Thousand Oaks is about five houses and the scale is so large
that the contours are a blur.


----- Original Message -----
From: "ben wilson" <ben@thelocust.org>
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:33 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Finding Slope Sites with Topo Maps


>
> Having just recently been introduced to the soaring-crack that is slope
> soaring (and the closest slope being some 45 minutes away at top speed), I
> was wondering if anyone had any experience using topo maps to find decent
> slope soaring sites.
>

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Old Dec 09, 2003, 03:01 AM
jaffee@earthlink.net
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Re: [RCSE] Finding Slope Sites with Topo Maps

At 11:03 PM 12/8/03 -0800, Martin Usher wrote:

>
>For example, a 'traditional' west-facing slope site in Thousand Oaks, CA, is
>at:-
>
>http://acme.com/mapper/?lat=34.18604...1&theme=Image&

width=3&height=2&dot=Yes

Ah, Smith Hill. FWIW, you can still fly there, and the actual flying area
is as large as it ever was. It's a bit overgrown now compared to how it
was when I learned to fly there 15 years ago though.

Something I think may really has potential for scoping out slopes is 3d
topographic software. I found a mountain biker in our area had mapped out
many of the trails in the hills with some of this software, and it looks
pretty neat. For example, check out this shot of the Wildwood ridge...

http://www.nrmbc.org/TrailMaps/Wildw...dFromEast.html

We used to fly on the north facing slope, overlooking the Santa Rosa valley
(which is on the right).
Too bad the software this guy used (TopoUSA) isn't free. Here's a link if
anyone is interested though..

http://www.delorme.com/topousa/default.asp





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Old Dec 09, 2003, 06:24 PM
Iflyicrash@aol.com
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Re: [RCSE] Finding Slope Sites with Topo Maps

In a message dated 12/9/03 2:29:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jaffee@earthlink.net writes:


> Too bad the software this guy used (TopoUSA) isn't free. Here's a link if
> anyone is interested though..
>
> http://www.delorme.com/topousa/default.asp
>


I've been using the TOPO USA software for a few years now, and along with a
Garmin GPS, you can find and map anywhere you want. If you watch for a sale,
you can get it here ( http://www.thegpsstore.com/ ) fairly cheap, or buy it
with a GPS for better savings.Super program, and with 3-D too. I also stuff the
GPS into my larger sailplanes for some tracing of flights. Bill
Grenoble--Shermans Dale, PA

Old Dec 09, 2003, 06:24 PM
Tom Broeski
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Re: [RCSE] Finding Slope Sites with Topo Maps

This one is free to use....

http://terraserver-usa.com/

Tom

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Afton, VA 22920
phone 540 943-3356
fax 540 943-4178
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Finding Slope Sites with Topo Maps


In a message dated 12/9/03 2:29:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, jaffee@earthlink.net writes:



Too bad the software this guy used (TopoUSA) isn't free. Here's a link if
anyone is interested though..

http://www.delorme.com/topousa/default.asp



I've been using the TOPO USA software for a few years now, and along with a Garmin GPS, you can find and map anywhere you want. If you watch for a sale, you can get it here ( http://www.thegpsstore.com/ ) fairly cheap, or buy it with a GPS for better savings.Super program, and with 3-D too. I also stuff the GPS into my larger sailplanes for some tracing of flights. Bill Grenoble--Shermans Dale, PA

 


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