Originally Posted by Just John

2 tries each time too fast left turn at lift off. 2 broken props, blades good. where can I get 3 blade 10x8 props quick and cheap or is there a two blade subsitute?
thanks

I used 2bl gws 10.47 slow fly on mine and it seemed fine.

The Auto-G and spare parts are back in stock at the USA warehouse Best, Aero

The wind was about 10 mph. rotor spun up very well just sitting on the ground. I think the problem is mine not feeding in enough right rudder to offset the tourqe. I'll try hand launching next time instead of shooting off across the grass soocer field. Also I have several slow stick props so I'll ty them. Thanks for the help
JJ

Originally Posted by Just John

The wind was about 10 mph. rotor spun up very well just sitting on the ground. I think the problem is mine not feeding in enough right rudder to offset the tourqe. I'll try hand launching next time instead of shooting off across the grass soocer field.
JJ

Sorry for all the questions but I'm a newbie gyro pilot, regarding not enough RUDD during your ROG was your Throttle applied "slowly" with rotation at 1/2 Throttle? Or did you end up reaching Full Throttle for takeoff when she rolled?

We were at Full Throttle when ours rolled over, again, not realizing 'bour rotor blade speed prior to flight.

hand-launch is best way to go if you got the sound then power and little push
changed rota nuts to one locknut and one tooth pick really saved the day
no wind = no flight
5-12 mph today was good lean it back get the blades whistling then power and launch

i had problems with rudder steering and Aileron
great autogyro bounces well but many bad landings tip overs did break prop in the end

will a GWS prop 10x6 orange be ok for a replacement

My AG has been assembled and ready to maiden but the weather is not cooperating, it's currently snowing.
I took it outside on Sunday to let the hurricane force winds spool up the blades....it looks like I have a bit more balancing to do.....and I managed to clip my bicep while they were spooled up..owwww!, Thank god for the toothpick mod or I'd be replacing the hub - blades - and probably an arm!.
On a side note - I sent a quote off for the Rotor Hub doohickey that's been breaking on these thing's and I'd like to get some feedback from AG owners on what you'd expect to pay for a replacement.
Obviously cheapcheap is good but please be realistic, they will be made from .090" thick black polycarb (lexan) and I was thinking of selling them 3 per bag.
I wouldn't be out to make a fortune on these - if it'd buy me a dinner or 2 I'd be happy.

Ok got mine finally.. Standard shipping from washington state to utah... 12 days?? seriously?? they must send it by camel or something...

but anyways got her all together. and I got a dumb question.

Yeah I read about the instructions being wrong. but even knowing that its not clear. the picture shows tilt left with right aileron.. BUT it does not show you which way the thing is facing... I assume the picture is from the back of the auto g..

So bottom line pretend your sitting in the thing flying. I give right stick the head should tilt to the right (the right side should get lower the left side should get higher)
Correct??

Second question my LHS just ran out of 1300's my only choice was a 1600. its tight but it will go in.. Problem is it wont move forward or back to adjust my cg. and I'm a bit nose heavy.. I hang it by the "spinner" and the nose is down about 1 to 1.5" from the tail.

Is that going to be to nose heavy?? or is it forgiving enough?

If its NOT ok. I can add some weight to the tail for now (till I can get a 1300) but again is weight going to kill me?? I understand it will cut my flight times down a bit etc etc. but can it handle a few extra ounces and still get off the ground? unfortunately I am two week from everything here. and I really dont want to wait..

EDIT:

I just weighed this pack and it comes in at 145g's

Originally Posted by Dacono Air

On a side note - I sent a quote off for the Rotor Hub doohickey that's been breaking on these thing's and I'd like to get some feedback from AG owners on what you'd expect to pay for a replacement.
Obviously cheapcheap is good but please be realistic, they will be made from .090" thick black polycarb (lexan) and I was thinking of selling them 3 per bag.
I wouldn't be out to make a fortune on these - if it'd buy me a dinner or 2 I'd be happy.

The entire blade grip assembly including the plate, hardware and shims is only $2.99 which I think would be tough to compete with. Are these rotor plates breaking from wear (flex) or from blade impact? If it is from impact I would think the toothpick mod would take care of this.

I don't mean to discourage you. If you can make an improved part at a reasonable cost go for it. And it your goal is to make a more durable part I don't think people would need three of them.

Originally Posted by metalwizard

Second question my LHS just ran out of 1300's my only choice was a 1600. its tight but it will go in.. Problem is it wont move forward or back to adjust my cg. and I'm a bit nose heavy.. I hang it by the "spinner" and the nose is down about 1 to 1.5" from the tail.

Is that going to be to nose heavy?? or is it forgiving enough?

EDIT:

I just weighed this pack and it comes in at 145g's

FWIW my 1300mah batts weigh 103g and my 1800's are 145g.

The AG is supposed to hang about 15° nose low when picked up by the blade hub. I did this with a 1000, 1300 and 1800mah batts and I really can't tell much difference by eyeballing it. I don't know if this applies to auto gyros but I always like my fixed wins ac to balance a tad nose low. And with a heavier battery they fly a tad faster but are more stable in the wind which alway blows where I live.

Originally Posted by Rickochet

FWIW my 1300mah batts weigh 103g and my 1800's are 145g.

The AG is supposed to hang about 15° nose low when picked up by the blade hub. I did this with a 1000, 1300 and 1800mah batts and I really can't tell much difference by eyeballing it. I don't know if this applies to auto gyros but I always like my fixed wins ac to balance a tad nose low. And with a heavier battery they fly a tad faster but are more stable in the wind which alway blows where I live.

Perfect thats what I wanted to know on the batteries.

any input on the ailerons??

Originally Posted by metalwizard

Perfect thats what I wanted to know on the batteries.

any input on the ailerons??

Left aileron stick should make the rotor tilt left, when viewed from behind.

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Originally Posted by skydanz

Left aileron stick should make the rotor tilt left, when viewed from behind.
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They have swapped the pictures in the instructions but still do not mention which end to view from so there is still some potential confusion. As skydanz mentioned when viewing the rotor from behind the tail looking toward the front the left side should go down when you move the stick left.

Perfect Guys justwanted to be sure... seemed correct but you never know!

Originally Posted by metalwizard

Perfect thats what I wanted to know on the batteries.

any input on the ailerons??

I fly with 3s 1000 and use a 30g lead weight taped to the front as it pitches up to much and not enough forward trim. A friend uses 1300 and no problems, with a 1800 I could imagine it to be heavy and perhaps fly very fast to keep in the air?

Fellas, I need a prop and the oem one is only avail from Asia.

So which GWS prop would be the most suitable replacement for the stock 10x8x3 one?

10x6, three-blade:
http://gwsprops.com/10x6x3.JPG

10x8 SF:
http://gwsprops.com/1080.JPG

10x8 Direct-Drive:
http://gwsprops.com/1080HD.JPG

Other things equal, I'd prefer 3-blade; but I'm hesitant since going from the stock 8-pitch to 6-pitch might not work....

Thoughts / tips / advice?

thx
Jeff

btw...this thing is a T-R-I-P!!!!!!