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Old Nov 06, 2012, 09:56 AM
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Looking forward to the first test flight Best, Aero
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 10:24 AM
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Just some tiny little bit of off-topic:

I quit venturing in german-speaking forums long ago as people over there tend to bash and thrash one another for weeks at a time. It's a shame seeing this attitude popping up here...
Exactly the same reason why I left several Dutch speaking forums in the past. Lots of moderators, no moderation... I thank the RC gods the moderators over here took action.

I never take sides and I don't even read flaming discussions like these, but it clutters up an otherwise good topic.
Doesn't the proverb say: 'You can win an internet discussion but you will still look retarded.'
Come on guys, stop it, send each other a PM, walk away.

And stay on topic...
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 10:48 AM
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Well, that was a really quick build.

Followed the manual exactly and it went together without any drama. See the attachments for some notes.

Ended up with three extra pieces: 2x clevises and 1x triangular thing.

Notes:

..............

6. I'm assuming rotor blades need to be balanced too. No idea how to do that, either. Time to use the search function again...
I have an idea that these blades won't need too much, if any, balancing. But if you find they do I've got a sure fire and relatively easy way to balance and C/G a set of blades so that they all come out exactly the same. You'll have to make or buy a couple tools.

In fact, I've got a set of PT-25 blades I haven't covered yet and could do a little pic-tutorial if anybody cares.

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Old Nov 06, 2012, 11:23 AM
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In fact, I've got a set of PT-25 blades I haven't covered yet and could do a little pic-tutorial if anybody cares.

Mike

I say go for it Mike if you have the time.

I've balanced/CG'd a fair share of heli blades but could always stand to learn a better/different way.

Speaking of covering blades, I need to get the last 2 covered for my Doozy a/gyro and get that thing done finally...
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 07:18 PM
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It's here

The box arrived today and I can say it was well packed. The foam is dense and very sturdy with the parts laid out without issue. I built it up in about 30 minutes while working on putting supper in the oven.

The maiden will be this weekend. I have work taking up all the daylight hours.
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Old Nov 06, 2012, 11:59 PM
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Ordered mine a few days ago. HK delivery being what it is it'll probably end up being a Christmas present to myself. Anyone found a link for a PDF of the manual out there yet?

Tally Ho!
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 02:22 AM
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I say go for it Mike if you have the time.

I've balanced/CG'd a fair share of heli blades but could always stand to learn a better/different way.
Fair enough, I'll get to work on it.

Mike
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 02:35 AM
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The box arrived today and I can say it was well packed. The foam is dense and very sturdy with the parts laid out without issue. I built it up in about 30 minutes while working on putting supper in the oven.

The maiden will be this weekend. I have work taking up all the daylight hours.
Have you got the same spare head as the "colleague" from Singapore ?



ps: Mine should be preceded by a custom letter, that may arrive next week if I'm lucky .. so ... still around 2 weeks time to wait ...
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 04:04 AM
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I just subs to this thread.. and place an order today now in print que
I didnt realize the head only 1 axis control system for aileron, the previous autogyro i had was the c30 cierva also from hk
that one flew great with 2 axis head system
video here:
HK Cierva C30 semi scale autogiro test flight (1 min 53 sec)


look forward to fly the auto G soon
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 04:34 AM
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Have you got the same spare head as the "colleague" from Singapore ?



ps: Mine should be preceded by a custom letter, that may arrive next week if I'm lucky .. so ... still around 2 weeks time to wait ...
Yes that spare head was included in the kit.
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 04:40 AM
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I just subs to this thread.. and place an order today now in print que
I didnt realize the head only 1 axis control system for aileron, the previous autogyro i had was the c30 cierva also from hk
that one flew great with 2 axis head system
video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWDxi...2&feature=plcp

look forward to fly the auto G soon
yes, I had a Cierva too, and it flies well, but it's not unusual for gyrocopters the single-axis rotor; it's an alternative design as effective as two axis.
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 05:04 AM
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yes, I had a Cierva too, and it flies well, but it's not unusual for gyrocopters the single-axis rotor; it's an alternative design as effective as two axis.
Interesting ... the thread about the Cierva is full of people that state that it does not fly well ... but here ... 2 over 2 say the opposite ...

Mine Cierva is still not fully build up .. so ... can't comment on it ... but ... instructions and suggestion for make the Cierva to fly good, are quite big.


Anyhow ... in theory it is even possible to fly with an autogyro with a fix rotor head ... in practice, I have seen even micro model (scratch build) that fly in this way ... anyhow ... a part from this model ... I still have to see another autogyro with only 1 free axis rotation on the rotor head ...

If 1:1 model also have a fix tail stabilizer, and have 2 axis rotor head freedom ... it may be for a reason ...

Anyhow ... this want to be an easy to fly autogyro ... easy in the sense that should be up in the air in no time, without big risk to have it wrongly configured that could lead to a bad first time flying experience.

I really hope a spare 2 axis rotor head will be released soon ... so people can upgrade once they want to make 1 step forward ... the two servo are already in place ... so ... it is looking a very easy option for an upgrade

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Old Nov 07, 2012, 05:29 AM
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Anyhow ... in theory it is even possible to fly with an autogyro with a fix rotor head ... in practice, I have seen even micro model (scratch build) that fly in this way ... anyhow ... a part from this model ... I still have to see another autogyro with only 1 free axis rotation on the rotor head ...


Another Autogyro with only roll on the head and elevator for pitch

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1650676
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 05:44 AM
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Anyhow ... in theory it is even possible to fly with an autogyro with a fix rotor head ... in practice, I have seen even micro model (scratch build) that fly in this way ... anyhow ... a part from this model ... I still have to see another autogyro with only 1 free axis rotation on the rotor head ...


Another Autogyro with only roll on the head and elevator for pitch

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1650676
It is looking a scratch build ...not a "product" ... quite a difference "to me" ...




ps: I did missed out that this was your scratch build design ! ... So congratulations for your self made autogyro ... I see you did used the Cierva rotor head .. that now is not anymore available ...
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Old Nov 07, 2012, 05:54 AM
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Yes that spare head was included in the kit.
You out there ducatirdr?

Please shoot me a PM.

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