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Old Oct 18, 2012, 01:27 PM
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OT: Flying Saucers are REAL!



http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/...flying-saucer/
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 02:52 PM
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recently declassified?
I could've sworn I've seen test flight footage on the various discovery channel Wing's shows?

the concept is sound though, sounds Almost like they were using the Tesla turbine effect to drive the rotors. air shutters for propulsion and lift, a low profile lifting body airframe.

I wonder how it would all work out nowadays with modern fly by wire avionics?


of course, it must be said that the article descended into derp towards the end, but... it is Fox news.
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 03:25 PM
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Anyone read Stephen Coonts book Saucer ? Food for thought. lol
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 03:39 PM
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Between the text and photos, it sure sounds like the Avro Air Car:

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/...o/avrocar.html
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 04:59 PM
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Buy the Model kit in 1/72nd scale ...

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To keep itsexistence a secret, Avro and the USAF went so far as
to build the significantlysmaller and less capable Avro VZ-9to publicly
discredit the whole "flying saucer" concept.
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http://www.sharkit.com/sharkit/silverbug/silverbug.htm



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Old Oct 18, 2012, 06:41 PM
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Anyone read Stephen Coonts book Saucer ? Food for thought. lol
Nice read. Enjoyed it. A quick blurb at the end mentioned a sequel in the works. Did it ever get published?
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 08:34 PM
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looks like Umi's got it, that is what is in the article, the USAF project that got shelved in favor of funding the then currently on going avrocar project.
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 09:30 PM
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The disk-shaped craft -- which comes complete with an ejector seat and was powered by a “ram jet” -- was designed to reach a top speed of Mach 4 and reach a ceiling of more than 100,000 feet, according to the lengthy document, which is titled “Project 1794, Final Development Summary Report” and dated 1956.

“The efficiency of the airframe at supersonic speed appears good and that of the engine reasonable, so that a long supersonic cruise range is also forecast,” it said. But in testing, the craft -- essentially a glorified hovercraft -- simply didn’t work as hoped.
Damn! Seems like Avro was seriously ahead of their time in many ways. Such a shame the company went under and that nobody thought to save one of the Arrows, at least for a museum or something.

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“Apparently, as it gained in altitude, it would start to wobble uncontrollably,” Carmichael explained.
Sounds like it just needed AS3X!
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 09:49 PM
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Damn! Seems like Avro was seriously ahead of their time in many ways. Such a shame the company went under and that nobody thought to save one of the Arrows, at least for a museum or something.



Sounds like it just needed AS3X!
The avro car prototype is in Maryland:
the article is seeming to mash up the Airforce Silverbug and the Canadian Avrocar. The AF killed it's project and funded the AC.

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As for secret weapon 606A, the prototype is gathering dust in a corner of a Maryland warehouse that serves as a storage facility for the National Air and Space Museum. Jack Walker, a veteran pilot who shows visitors around, cannot understand why anyone would want to see it, and warns me not to get too close lest I be abducted by aliens.

The burnished metal disc, about 15 metres across, is lying unsung and forlorn under the wing of a Second World War Black Widow fighter. The perspex bubble over the cabin has been removed, and its instrument panel is in a cardboard box somewhere else. But you can still see where the edges were charred in the effort to get John Frost's flawed vision off the ground.

hmmm... I'm not very far away.. perhaps I should inquire a visit?


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Old Oct 19, 2012, 12:52 AM
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With modern composite materials and digital gyro stabilization it could be made to fly well today.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 08:14 AM
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Avrocar - The flying saucer 50s (2 min 44 sec)


Designed by Englishman John Meadows Frost.....
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 02:58 PM
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Damn! Seems like Avro was seriously ahead of their time in many ways. Such a shame the company went under and that nobody thought to save one of the Arrows, at least for a museum or something.
My take is that they got rid of the Arrows intentionally to force business into America. Not the Canucks forcing it, US doing it.

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Old Oct 20, 2012, 06:02 PM
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Ah yes, the Arrow.

its been in the news lately.



/carefull! that image is as hot as the exhaust gas of a afterburning F135 turbofan
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 07:35 AM
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That Cf105 probably has more chance of seeing production than the F35.....
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 01:14 PM
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Um, F-35 squadrons are already in place.

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=66309

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