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Old Jan 10, 2013, 06:05 AM
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May be a really stupid question, but i there a difference between acrylic latex, and just plain acrylic? The reason I ask is, I have gotten acrylic latex before at Glidden in any color I want.

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DAG
The stuff I get is described as acrylic satin/matt formulated for painting wood and metal,not latex.Glidden(which over here is a "trade"ie used by professionals brand) do a version of this which I have used for decorating.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 08:57 AM
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I thought plain acrylic was an enamel based paint and acrylic latex was a water based paint. Since "fuel proofing" is not an issue, the latex should work fine for your application.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 09:14 AM
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I thought plain acrylic was an enamel based paint and acrylic latex was a water based paint. Since "fuel proofing" is not an issue, the latex should work fine for your application.
McD
Its not a latex thing, its a drying time thing. Acrylics dry faster. I was wondering if acrylic latex was the same as straight acrylic???

I have used latex a ton, but to properly dry takes weeks....

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 11:35 AM
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I thought plain acrylic was an enamel based paint and acrylic latex was a water based paint. Since "fuel proofing" is not an issue, the latex should work fine for your application.
McD
I few years ago I would have told you this:
Acrylic paints were water based that could be thinned with water or alcohol while wet, but become waterproof when dry.
Enamel paints were always oil or solvent based.
Latex paints were what you used to paint houses.

Now the lines have blurred. Start looking around and you will find Acrylic Latex (water based), Acrylic Enamels (both water & solvent based), and even Acrylic Latex Enamel. There are now Catalyzed paints as well, which rely on a hardener just like epoxy or resin to cure rather than dry.

So... In my past experience (limited and humble as it may be) I have found the following to be true of most air dry paints I have used:

Drying time will vary greatly between paint manufacturers even if they claim to be of the same "chemistry".

Drying time will vary greatly between paint finishes even from the same manufacturer.

Gloss finished seem to dry much slower than Flat finishes regardless of the paint chemistry. I believe this is because they need to be applied in heavier coats and they tend to dry from the outside in (they "skin over") trapping the carrier (water or solvent).

Baking finishes for several hours at about 100 degrees will speed drying.

Most "Latex" house paints I've used seem to be "softer" or less durable than "Acrylic" or "Enamel" hobby or craft paints.

Your mileage may vary...
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 07:15 PM
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Enjoy

I think she is just right!!!!

EII Sound Test 003 (3 min 5 sec)




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Old Jan 12, 2013, 07:22 PM
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Very Cool!!!

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 07:25 PM
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Very Cool!!!

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Thanks!!!!

I kept trying to get my girl to talk to me while I ran it, but she couldn't understand what I was saying to her.......

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 07:27 PM
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Thanks!!!!

I kept trying to get my girl to talk to me while I ran it, but she couldn't understand what I was saying to her.......

DAG
Plenty of volume then!!

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 08:02 PM
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I am glad you are pleased with it! Try the other engine too, it's also pretty cool.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 08:07 PM
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I am glad you are pleased with it! Try the other engine too, it's also pretty cool.
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Did it sound distorted to you???? The guy on YouTube said it was badly distorted. Sounds great on my studio speakers, and I was not overdriving my sound system at all... I was peaking at about 65% output and getting about 103-105db. My shop is a concrete room though and I know I am getting some bounceback from that.

Great system and well worth the money......

THANKS!!!!!!!

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 08:10 PM
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I few years ago I would have told you this:
Acrylic paints were water based that could be thinned with water or alcohol while wet, but become waterproof when dry.
Enamel paints were always oil or solvent based.
Latex paints were what you used to paint houses.

Now the lines have blurred. Start looking around and you will find Acrylic Latex (water based), Acrylic Enamels (both water & solvent based), and even Acrylic Latex Enamel. There are now Catalyzed paints as well, which rely on a hardener just like epoxy or resin to cure rather than dry.

So... In my past experience (limited and humble as it may be) I have found the following to be true of most air dry paints I have used:

Drying time will vary greatly between paint manufacturers even if they claim to be of the same "chemistry".

Drying time will vary greatly between paint finishes even from the same manufacturer.

Gloss finished seem to dry much slower than Flat finishes regardless of the paint chemistry. I believe this is because they need to be applied in heavier coats and they tend to dry from the outside in (they "skin over") trapping the carrier (water or solvent).

Baking finishes for several hours at about 100 degrees will speed drying.

Most "Latex" house paints I've used seem to be "softer" or less durable than "Acrylic" or "Enamel" hobby or craft paints.

Your mileage may vary...
Joel
Thanks!!!!!!!
I am on a mission now

Rock ON!!!!!!

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Old Jan 12, 2013, 08:27 PM
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I've had distortion on video cams trying to record in garages, etc, where you have a lot of echo, etc. It sounded great to me. Did you watch the video on you tube after uploading?
When you get it outside and record away from the plane, it will be totally different. If you record at a much lower volume when in the garage, while close to the plane, the video will be better. That way it doesn't pick up all of the echo which tends to cancel the live sound from the speakers.
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 08:30 PM
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What did you think of the other radial sound?
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Old Jan 12, 2013, 10:15 PM
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250 MPH standing still and unfinished. Can't wait for the finished product!!!!
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Old Jan 13, 2013, 02:20 PM
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Niiiice video, Damon!! Thanks for sharing!
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