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Old Oct 18, 2012, 01:09 PM
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Hangar 9's earlier 1/4 scale J3 and PA-18 were covered in World Tex fabric. I had the PA-18. So to answer your question...yes...I think they could put fabric on an ''arfy."
I said fabric and painted finish. World tex is an iron on and has edges that will be peeling up in time. Then your chasing that problem, just like plastic covering. I still stand by my statement. If you do a painted finish over fabric like Sig Koverall, you will still be trouble free in the years to come with no edges peeling up or wrinkles to iron out.
Plastic coverings have their place at times in the smaller modeling world. Giant SCALE airplanes should never have plastic on them.
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 02:45 PM
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Mewert, I couldn't agree with you more. Painted fabric (i.e., Koverall and dope, with an enamel or Klasskote color scheme) is by far the best finish for any giant scalie, especially this Cub.

That said, it makes sense to me that they cover it in iron-on material, considering the overseas production line skills that put it together, and the need to make a certain rate at the end of the line in order to be profitable.

The question now is, do you strip it right away, or do you fly it for a season or two and strip it after it has gotten a bit dog-eared and dirty. Decisions.

I may have to put my H9 quarter-Cub up on the auction block, and get one of these. Sure is perty.
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 08:40 PM
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Mewert, I couldn't agree with you more. Painted fabric (i.e., Koverall and dope, with an enamel or Klasskote color scheme) is by far the best finish for any giant scalie, especially this Cub.

That said, it makes sense to me that they cover it in iron-on material, considering the overseas production line skills that put it together, and the need to make a certain rate at the end of the line in order to be profitable.

I agree 100%

The question now is, do you strip it right away, or do you fly it for a season or two and strip it after it has gotten a bit dog-eared and dirty. Decisions.

I believe it is way easier and better to strip it right away if you are going to anyway. That way you can do any mods or extra beefing up here and there. Lack of proper glue in joints and so forth is a major consideration here.

I may have to put my H9 quarter-Cub up on the auction block, and get one of these. Sure is perty.

I was thinking the same.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 07:48 AM
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Roknhs.....how do you get a Horizon 15% coupon? I think the price is ok compared to other models, ARF's have gone up alot in the last 5 years a lot and its right in the ballpark with competition, and Hangar 9 quality is usually top notch. I would think the G26 at least or a heavier motor, or you will be strapping lead on it. Maybe a G38, but definately a DLE 30 would be too light I believe.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 08:44 AM
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I said fabric and painted finish. World tex is an iron on and has edges that will be peeling up in time. Then your chasing that problem, just like plastic covering. I still stand by my statement. If you do a painted finish over fabric like Sig Koverall, you will still be trouble free in the years to come with no edges peeling up or wrinkles to iron out.
Plastic coverings have their place at times in the smaller modeling world. Giant SCALE airplanes should never have plastic on them.
Sorry, I overlooked the painted finish part.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 09:13 AM
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Roknhs.....how do you get a Horizon 15% coupon? I think the price is ok compared to other models, ARF's have gone up alot in the last 5 years a lot and its right in the ballpark with competition, and Hangar 9 quality is usually top notch. I would think the G26 at least or a heavier motor, or you will be strapping lead on it. Maybe a G38, but definately a DLE 30 would be too light I believe.

The coupon was a gratuity for filling out a survey on Horizon's service and marketing.........I buy a fair amount of stuff from them and occasionally get these requests for feedback........the timing on this one was perfect. Normally a coupon won't influence my purchase decisions..........this time it did.

Assuming the PA-18 will be very similiar to my J3, a motor like the DLE 55 with the Rx and Ignition battery behind the back seat should balance the airframe about perfectly. Something lighter like a DLE 30 will be plenty of power for sport flying............might need to move the batteries forward to get the correct balance point. If this is set up like the J3, there is a fair amount of space under the floor board for equipment. My Rx switch is just below the back seat on the kick board, my Ingition switch is just inside the door on the floor.

I have to believe any motor lighter than a DLE 30 will require some ballast weight on the firewall to balance........your mileage may vary............but I don't think so.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 08:34 PM
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Electric....

Hi guys.

So, one of my Lhs's has one on order for me.

This will be my first shot at a giant electric. Here is what I am thinking of doing.

I have had hacker motors in the past - my hackers have been flawless. Take amps well, and are usually a bit more flexible.

I am thinking of using an a60-5s, 295kv. I choose this motor because I can run it 8s as recommended, but I can just drop in 10s if I ever want to 'go nuts', as the motor will run 3000 watts all day long- I can't bring myself to cut up such a beautiful cowl.

What do you guys think?

Best,

Chris
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 07:36 AM
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I also placed one on order and I ordered the new Zenoah ZP 26 engine for power. The new ZP38 is a rear exhaust and requires 182mm from the firewall and the new Cub is 158mm. Rear carb engines will make the throttle tough to hook up but, now I am worried that the ZP 26 may not be enough. FYI if you order the light kit be sure to order the needed extensions.

I also have the H9 1/4 scale Cub which is completed except I am also waiting on the new Zenoah ZP 20 engine. I had a G20ei in the past ans I have to say that it was more reliable than most automobiles. The redesigned Zenoah ignition with much smaller current draw should be a real benefit. Any comments on engine selection would be appreciated.

Howard
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 01:26 PM
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I THINK Im going with a DLE30 will fit with out hacking the cowl, good power and reliability. I thing electric would not do this beauty justice.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 07:57 PM
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I agree..... Hangar has put a ton of scale detail into this new giant and I LOVE IT!!!!!! One major approvement I see is the folding wing supports....... they added scale lights if you want, which I plan on but not the Horizon option....... One thing I would love to know from you is the wing measurements from your 1/4 cub... I am ordering parts and the new wing bag is needed but I have no idea of the measurements......... Everyone toughts and has the DLE motors but my Super will be sporting the DA 60 - will barely squeeze with maybe a washer or two......... Go Big or Go Home...!!...
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 08:03 PM
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Wing bags

I use two 64" Wingtote single bags for mine. http://www.wing-tote.com/1wing.php
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 08:09 PM
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@ MEWERT - Thank You!
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 11:56 AM
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subbing to this I think this will be my first giant scale project
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Old Oct 24, 2012, 12:26 PM
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Already ordered and recieved the Topmodel CZ 200 mm / 7.87 ich diameter tundra tires... that will fit nice on this 1/4 scale Super CUB.

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Old Oct 24, 2012, 02:05 PM
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What is the weight on these 200mm? I have the 160mm version that weigh a pound each. Thats allot of extra weight to lug around, but I think the 160mm fit the 1/4 S Cub better. Anyway, let us see the 200's on your Cub when you get it.
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