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Old Oct 27, 2012, 06:01 AM
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too bad. The lex is wrong, the ailerons are WAY too big (which makes the flaps too small.
Maybe they will address these issues before release???
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:30 AM
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Now lets see the airframe please someone

can't wait

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:32 AM
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I bought another p47 kit couple weeks back and with new paint schemes and decals,a new plane coming,2013 will start out great for me and fms!
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 08:26 AM
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Is this real?

Ok, between everyone's fantasy and dreams I cannot tell what is real. Is it really a P-51B? How do you know this? Any pictures of it anywhere? I don't know all the differances, but I do know that both planes did not have the same wing. Bud Anderson said he liked the model B better than his D model. I think the B looks better. For newbies Bud flew Old Crow and is still living.

Old Crow has been flown since the picture.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 08:45 AM
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hmmm .... I will think for FMS cause yes, I am that smart lol..... no pun intended and I use this phrase for entertainment purposes... "we here are tired of the complaints that the Red tails plane is a painted P-51D..... We will shut them up finally by molding a P-51B and paint it properly to the true attire .... Props for me
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 09:40 AM
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Really not trying to be a downer but I kinda see the B as a remake, just a different fuse. That is probably the let down for a lot of guys as they were expecting something fresh, hence my version 8 comment.

It's funny how the FMS poll resulted in another vendor jumping on the band wagon and producing 2 of the birds that were at the top of the list, and so far ignored by FMS.

I look forward to the next fresh release from FMS.

Enjoy the B guys

Cheers

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 11:46 AM
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Brent, I already explained why the 262 was not made by FMS: with the technology currently available, it is not possible to make a Me262 that meets the expectations FMS has in their own models...

What was the other plane made? Seems I missed that one...


About the wing: the B's wing is not that different to the D's, the overall shape is almost the same and the model B's wing will only have 2 machine guns each side, which actually is the most obvious difference for most people.


To the "remake-whiners": how would a Razorback Jug, a Spitfire Mk. I or V or a FW190 Dora then not be a remake?!

There are two principal versions of the Mustang, the B/C and the D and they do look quite different to each other, actually the difference is greater than in between the 190 A and D for example.
A manufacturer should have both these versions in their portfolio. As for the others (A, X and whatever), they are only variations of the two. But I think nobody can deny that the B/C and the D are sufficiently different to each other to justify to make them both...

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 11:57 AM
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i dont blame fms for making this, they gotta make a seller. Not sure difference between making a razorback jug and this, pretty much both are a "remake". Whatever i got my fms 109 and stuka, im a happy guy and feel fortunate for them making those models.
Cant expect them to be making warbirds that most of the public dont know about. But unfortunatly i may be going to dynam for my next plane that me 262 is pretty unresistable, i would go for the 190 but my brother has it.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 12:07 PM
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Brent, I already explained why the 262 was not made by FMS: with the technology currently available, it is not possible to make a Me262 that meets the expectations FMS has in their own models...

What was the other plane made? Seems I missed that one...


About the wing: the B's wing is not that different to the D's, the overall shape is almost the same and the model B's wing will only have 2 machine guns each side, which actually is the most obvious difference for most people.


To the "remake-whiners": how would a Razorback Jug, a Spitfire Mk. I or V or a FW190 Dora then not be a remake?!

There are two principal versions of the Mustang, the B/C and the D and they do look quite different to each other, actually the difference is greater than in between the 190 A and D for example.
A manufacturer should have both these versions in their portfolio. As for the others (A, X and whatever), they are only variations of the two. But I think nobody can deny that the B/C and the D are sufficiently different to each other to justify to make them both...

Cheers,
Bernhard
Bernhard,
I might feel differently were I in your shoes, but I don't think any of this discussion is meant to be taken personally. I LOVE the fact that FMS does solicit opinions, but when folks offer them (some more aggressively than others, I agree) I don't know if it helps further the dialogue by labeling dissenting individuals as "whiners".
I am actually looking forward to seeing how FMS treats the B, and I could potentially see myself picking one up. Yet this doesn't change my disappointment in hoping to have seen a completely new model and so I have stated my opinion as such. Just don't like to see things degenerate to name calling when people don't fall in line with the current situation.

And I think the Dora is much more significantly different to the A than the Mustang B to D (over 3 feet longer and a liqiud cooled vs Radial engine being the much more part...), but that too is just my opinion...
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Really not trying to be a downer but I kinda see the B as a remake, just a different fuse. That is probably the let down for a lot of guys as they were expecting something fresh, hence my version 8 comment.

It's funny how the FMS poll resulted in another vendor jumping on the band wagon and producing 2 of the birds that were at the top of the list, and so far ignored by FMS.

I look forward to the next fresh release from FMS.

Enjoy the B guys

Cheers

Seacrest out..........
Yepper that ME262 would of been outstanding

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 12:26 PM
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Ok, between everyone's fantasy and dreams I cannot tell what is real. Is it really a P-51B? How do you know this? Any pictures of it anywhere? I don't know all the differances, but I do know that both planes did not have the same wing. Bud Anderson said he liked the model B better than his D model. I think the B looks better. For newbies Bud flew Old Crow and is still living.

Old Crow has been flown since the picture.
Old crow in this livery was real and I have wartime pictures of it somewhere.

But the "B" wing was NOT the same as the D wing. Not only was there one less gun per wing in the B. The Leading edge extension at the wing root was MUCH smaller the the "D". As I mentioned, North American changed the fwd rake of the landing gear on the D model which necessitated the inner wheel well be enlarged, thus changing the LE sweep at the root.

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 12:32 PM
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Old crow in this livery was real and I have wartime pictures of it somewhere.

But the "B" wing was NOT the same as the D wing. Not only was there one less gun per wing in the B. The Leading edge extension at the wing root was MUCH smaller the the "D". As I mentioned, North American changed the fwd rake of the landing gear on the D model which necessitated the inner wheel well be enlarged, thus changing the LE sweep at the root.

Tom
Big +1

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 12:58 PM
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I also find it interesting that in FMS 1700mm P-51D (as well as their made-for-Durafly 1100mm P-51D)they DID address some of my scale concerns as to the contour of the belly and the size of the aileron/ flaps.

I certainly hope they translate into the B (which stands for beautiful I might add!)

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 01:35 PM
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I also find it interesting that in FMS 1700mm P-51D (as well as their made-for-Durafly 1100mm P-51D)they DID address some of my scale concerns as to the contour of the belly and the size of the aileron/ flaps.

I certainly hope they translate into the B (which stands for beautiful I might add!)

Tom

Ooops! I thought it was B for Bodacious
I would like to see it in kit form so we can put our own components into it.
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Old Oct 27, 2012, 01:48 PM
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Ooops! I thought it was B for Bodacious
I would like to see it in kit form so we can put our own components into it.
I would like to just see a few pictures of it myself,

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