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Old Sep 26, 2012, 09:59 AM
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Icon A5 - How many Different Foam Versions Are There?

How many different electric foam versions of the Icon A5 are there? Are any of them considered to be the best of the lot?

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Old Sep 26, 2012, 09:10 PM
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Foam Icon a5

3 that I know of. Hobbyking has 2 different ones and then Parkzone has one.
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Old Sep 29, 2012, 11:00 PM
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Do they all do the tail wag like my parkzone does. I love my parkzone icon but that wag makes me nervous.
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Old Oct 04, 2012, 02:41 PM
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Do they all do the tail wag like my parkzone does. I love my parkzone icon but that wag makes me nervous.
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Don't be afraid. It's just happy.

Here's a forth version. China is all over this cool design.

http://nfdhobby.com/en/c_2.asp?id=1822
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Old Oct 05, 2012, 06:10 PM
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HK used to sell that version, or at least the little girl holding the plane is the same. It has a tail wag too from the videos I have seen. They may have updated the design a little, or just the paint scheme
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 07:51 AM
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And here's another. They just keep popping up! Unfortunately for me, they get bigger, not smaller. I want the micro as3x version!

But this is a beauty. Built in retracts!

http://www.kmp.ca/product_info.php?p...654119806099dd

As I find more alternatives to the PZ Icon, it makes me wonder why PZ skimped on a steerable rudder. Most, if not all of the "cheap copies" have it. Flaps too.
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Old Oct 06, 2012, 07:58 AM
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Do they all do the tail wag like my parkzone does. I love my parkzone icon but that wag makes me nervous.
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My Parkzone A5 does not tail wag, but I think it's happy anyway...
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 12:41 PM
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It seems there are countless versions of this model.

I would not say the PZ is closest to scale, but I do believe that HH and Parkzone is the only version licensed by Icon.
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Old Oct 09, 2012, 03:22 PM
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I too am waiting for a micro as3x version of the icon a5...I think that would be a blast!!! I have the parkzone one and its great, tail wags, makes it feel like its out of control but its not. Just gotta manage that throttle really well to get out of that situation when it gets into it.

By steerable rudder do you mean water rudder? If so, the plane does not need it in the least and in fact would probably hinder it. By not having it, you dont have wories about dragging against weeds geting caught up and most water rudders dont work that well anyway...from what I have read in the forums. The rudder itself on this plane is MORE than enough, you can taxi on the water like a jetski, it has great water handling characteristics.....and even taxiing on grass, I just did that last night and its super agile on the grass.
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 11:31 AM
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IMO I am not at all inclined to buy a micro A5
I would imagine that tail wobble would be much more pronounced as the model gets scaled even smaller
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Old Oct 11, 2012, 02:41 PM
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Thats why it will have AS3X!!! =)
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Old Oct 12, 2012, 03:05 PM
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I too am waiting for a micro as3x version of the icon a5...I think that would be a blast!!! I have the parkzone one and its great, tail wags, makes it feel like its out of control but its not. Just gotta manage that throttle really well to get out of that situation when it gets into it.

By steerable rudder do you mean water rudder? If so, the plane does not need it in the least and in fact would probably hinder it. By not having it, you dont have wories about dragging against weeds geting caught up and most water rudders dont work that well anyway...from what I have read in the forums. The rudder itself on this plane is MORE than enough, you can taxi on the water like a jetski, it has great water handling characteristics.....and even taxiing on grass, I just did that last night and its super agile on the grass.
It does handle really well as is, but in windy conditions a water rudder would be superior. I have flipped it in the wind trying to get back to the boat at minimum speed.

AS3X would totally eliminate the tail wag for the whiners.
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 11:36 PM
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It seems there are countless versions of this model.

I would not say the PZ is closest to scale, but I do believe that HH and Parkzone is the only version licensed by Icon.
And along with that license came the full scale 3D CAD, from which we made our version. No question the ParkZone airplane is the closest to scale. We did have to make some changes to get a good-flying airplane, but because we started with the actual full-size loft our version is going to be the closest to scale.

The hard part is determining "scale model of what?" The non-flying, full size display model (the airplane with the silver paint job)? The flying prototype with the simple white paint job? Whatever state the design was in at the time ICON sent us the CAD is what we modeled. At that time, they had chosen to remove the flaps from the airplane. Since then they have reversed their decision and decided the flaps will be on the production airplane after all. And since we froze the design on the ParkZone bird, they have pressed forward and made some more changes. The spin-resistant wing is one significant change, although any difference is barely noticeable at this scale.

ICON was involved with us from the beginning. You can say what you will about the trim scheme, the handling qualities, the pricing, the availability - whatever - but the scale fidelity on the ParkZone version is likely better than any of the others that have had to rely on photos and 2D drawings only to generate their shapes.
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Old Oct 14, 2012, 07:59 AM
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And along with that license came the full scale 3D CAD, from which we made our version. No question the ParkZone airplane is the closest to scale. We did have to make some changes to get a good-flying airplane, but because we started with the actual full-size loft our version is going to be the closest to scale.

The hard part is determining "scale model of what?" The non-flying, full size display model (the airplane with the silver paint job)? The flying prototype with the simple white paint job? Whatever state the design was in at the time ICON sent us the CAD is what we modeled. At that time, they had chosen to remove the flaps from the airplane. Since then they have reversed their decision and decided the flaps will be on the production airplane after all. And since we froze the design on the ParkZone bird, they have pressed forward and made some more changes. The spin-resistant wing is one significant change, although any difference is barely noticeable at this scale.

ICON was involved with us from the beginning. You can say what you will about the trim scheme, the handling qualities, the pricing, the availability - whatever - but the scale fidelity on the ParkZone version is likely better than any of the others that have had to rely on photos and 2D drawings only to generate their shapes.
And what an awesome plane it is!!! Thats why I have two. Odd that it WILL spin easily, considering what the full-sized Icon has achieved. But as you point out, it is a work in progress. Considering how easily the silver paint comes off, I'd say mostly white was a good choice.

So will the micro as3x version have a different paint scheme???
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Old Oct 16, 2012, 12:03 PM
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And along with that license came the full scale 3D CAD, from which we made our version. No question the ParkZone airplane is the closest to scale. We did have to make some changes to get a good-flying airplane, but because we started with the actual full-size loft our version is going to be the closest to scale.

The hard part is determining "scale model of what?" The non-flying, full size display model (the airplane with the silver paint job)? The flying prototype with the simple white paint job? Whatever state the design was in at the time ICON sent us the CAD is what we modeled. At that time, they had chosen to remove the flaps from the airplane. Since then they have reversed their decision and decided the flaps will be on the production airplane after all. And since we froze the design on the ParkZone bird, they have pressed forward and made some more changes. The spin-resistant wing is one significant change, although any difference is barely noticeable at this scale.

ICON was involved with us from the beginning. You can say what you will about the trim scheme, the handling qualities, the pricing, the availability - whatever - but the scale fidelity on the ParkZone version is likely better than any of the others that have had to rely on photos and 2D drawings only to generate their shapes.
Thank you for confirming the Icon info; I was pretty sure you all had coordinated your efforts with Icon, but did not know for sure...

What a plane! I look forward to seeing many more float planes come out of HH
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