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Old Sep 26, 2012, 10:37 AM
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Very sweet. I am in if FMS gets this one right.
These are a FMS in-house production. I'm confident that if there are any problems FMS will take care of it immediately.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 10:45 AM
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purdy!

How much play does the wheel have when extended?
The 514's with metal trunnion I just installed in my V6 FMS Mustang are better than stock, but still have about 1/8"-1/4" play (at the wheel on the end of a 145mm long strut, bit more side to side than front/back) in both side/side and forward/back direction.
This is due to minor slop in the trunnion-to-casing and trunnion to worm-drive-bar.
Are these better in that regard?
I just got these in the mail around 3:00pm yesterday. With all the photos, vids, editing etc. I did yesterday afternoon and well into the night, I wasn't able to run a full test on these boogers other then about 30 uneventful cycles during the vid session. I've taken note of yours and others questions and I hope to have answers later today.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 10:51 AM
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Kurt,

If these are infact like the eflite, you can expect no trunnion slope what so ever. When I originally did the eflite 60-120 mod on my 1.7m p51 that was one of reason i did it also because the plastic retracts were ver poor, collapsed, cracked , etc. So our buddy Aros forwarded the mod over to FMS and bam! They responded with these and am hoping they answered all our prayers.
You are absolutely right Nick! There is no play what so ever!
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 10:57 AM
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Nice work, as always, Gary!

I'm sure glad that you live in the "Show Us" state of Missouri

P.S. I hope that FMS includes the hex screws with the retracts like in the ones they sent you...I just hate it when you order e-tracts and they don't have 'em and I just used my last one yesterday.
These came with 2 parts packages, one labeled P-47 and the other labeled P-51, with the included (4) 4mm grub screws. They even included the strut pins.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 11:05 AM
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You are absolutely right Nick! There is no play what so ever!
Awesome!
They did a good job copying E-Flight then
Now let's wait for the price....

guessing these fit a 5mm strut?
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 12:24 PM
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 01:14 PM
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Awesome!
They did a good job copying E-Flight then
Now let's wait for the price....

guessing these fit a 5mm strut?
Yes, 5mm strut pins locked in with (2) 4mm grub screws.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 01:36 PM
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Yes, 5mm strut pins locked in with (2) 4mm grub screws.
2 grub screws is a nice touch.

Don't know if there's a better source for 5mm stock(and don't know shipping cost if not a Amazon Prime member), but I'm using this on my 514s:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o05_s00_i00
Perfect fit in the large steel trunnions that fit 514s.

Looks like the new model's trunnion and "locking sleeve" are alumin(i)um(?) - hopefully they're hard enough not to wear/deform after multiple landings, introducing slop.
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Old Sep 26, 2012, 02:00 PM
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Nice I'll be getting at least 3 pair of these for my warbirds
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wow!!!
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 10:06 AM
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So will PW-RC be carrying these? I thought he was phasing out of FMS product.
Thanks, Walter
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 11:39 AM
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Looking very good.

Curious about the price and the rotating version.

I am thinking these are too big for the 1400mm birds. In most of these the 514's are pretty much the max they can take.
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 12:01 PM
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Are these 90 degree units? Your test bench video shows less than 90 degrees, but is that a function of how you mounted the units in the "wing?" Are they going to be available in 85 degree like the eflites? Or is this not an issue because you can just adjust the mount and rely on the auto-cut off for the up position? Thanks in advance for your answers.

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Old Sep 27, 2012, 12:21 PM
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Looking very good.

Curious about the price and the rotating version.

I am thinking these are too big for the 1400mm birds. In most of these the 514's are pretty much the max they can take.
I put Eflite 60-120 e-tracts in my V1 1400 Mustang LONG before any of this was popular.

eflite 60-120 and these new FMS models have the same footprint as old Robart and Spring-air "40 size" pneumatic retracts. They NOT too big for the 1400mm models.... in fact, proabbly where they should have started! not finished!
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 12:25 PM
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Are these 90 degree units? Your test bench video shows less than 90 degrees, but is that a function of how you mounted the units in the "wing?" Are they going to be available in 85 degree like the eflites? Or is this not an issue because you can just adjust the mount and rely on the auto-cut off for the up position? Thanks in advance for your answers.

Neil

I have been relying on the auto-shut-off feature in the 514's from some time now. mainly because they act fast and don't draw a lot of current. However... this is NOT the case with other manufacturers or larger units. They can draw a LOT of current when not allowed to cycle to the limit switches and they take way too long to shut-off. they can certainly fail the BEC in many ESC's if allowed to do so.

it will be very interesting to see what sandancer comes up with on these new units as far as running current (lifting a typical wheel/strut), stall current and how long before auto shut-off.

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