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Old Oct 07, 2012, 01:11 PM
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I dont own any planes with motors on the front , when you put a motor on the front any moron can fly them.
They dont need any fine tuning to fly .
Any cheap china mfg can draw them up and sell them .
If you want the feeling of being with the masses a tractor plane is great .
Its kinda liked be pulled around like your in a wagon to site see.
If you want a rush and actually fly a plane then a fine tuned Ritewing or killer helli will do the trick , these actually take some skill.

A wing thats tuned does not need a tail to make it fly rite, if you notice all the future comercial airlines ,nasa and military projects are wings and lifting bodies, well the reason is that they are much better suited for performance and efficiency than the arcaic tractor designs of past.

The biggest reason the flying fields have issues with wings is because their hearing aids are set to high and old field presidents dont like to try to keep up with the times, they would rather enjoy slow aircraft that fly themselfs , it too much effort and skill to fly a wing.
Zagies are wing trash , so comparing them to my product is like comparing a flat foamie 3 d plane to a 3D hobby shop plane.


A fast performance pusher takes some serious fine tuning and piloting skils to keep up with, the cheap tractor type planes has not helped the RC industry to teach pilots to fly well at all.

Fly what you can I guess, tractors are antiques and if you like them then thats cool, but please get out of my way when you hear me coming LOL!!
Back at ya Tickmeister!!
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Old Oct 07, 2012, 06:04 PM
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I dont own any planes with motors on the front , when you put a motor on the front any moron can fly them.
They dont need any fine tuning to fly .
Any cheap china mfg can draw them up and sell them .
If you want the feeling of being with the masses a tractor plane is great .
Its kinda liked be pulled around like your in a wagon to site see.
If you want a rush and actually fly a plane then a fine tuned Ritewing or killer helli will do the trick , these actually take some skill.

A wing thats tuned does not need a tail to make it fly rite, if you notice all the future comercial airlines ,nasa and military projects are wings and lifting bodies, well the reason is that they are much better suited for performance and efficiency than the arcaic tractor designs of past.

The biggest reason the flying fields have issues with wings is because their hearing aids are set to high and old field presidents dont like to try to keep up with the times, they would rather enjoy slow aircraft that fly themselfs , it too much effort and skill to fly a wing.
Zagies are wing trash , so comparing them to my product is like comparing a flat foamie 3 d plane to a 3D hobby shop plane.


A fast performance pusher takes some serious fine tuning and piloting skils to keep up with, the cheap tractor type planes has not helped the RC industry to teach pilots to fly well at all.

Fly what you can I guess, tractors are antiques and if you like them then thats cool, but please get out of my way when you hear me coming LOL!!
Back at ya Tickmeister!!
The first powered manned flight was made by a pusher.

Your opinions are wrong and you should feel bad.
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Old Oct 07, 2012, 06:17 PM
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Ya but they had a tail, Sorry I do feel bad
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The first powered manned flight was made by a pusher.

Your opinions are wrong and you should feel bad.
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Old Oct 07, 2012, 06:23 PM
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Yes, I have noticed that all the commercial carriers are switching to flying wings. The airbus, 737,757,777's are all scrap metal as giant passenger carrying flying wings are sweeping the globe. Just visit an airport near you if you are a doubter. Pilot salaries will double for these wings since they require more pilot skill so expect the increase in efficiency to be offset by the increase in pay for qualified pilots, your ticket will cost MORE now. Seat height and width are greatly reduced and bose noise cancelling headsets are required from engine start to engine shut down. Welcome to the future!
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Old Oct 07, 2012, 06:28 PM
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And getting a window seat is hell!
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Old Oct 07, 2012, 06:56 PM
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37

Future is already here
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Old Oct 07, 2012, 10:02 PM
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more like these
SpaceShip 2
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nd_VMS_Eve.jpg
and
Boeing BWB
http://www.sflorg.com/aviation/image...2607_01_02.jpg

word is SpaceShip 3 will do point to point suborbital fights based on a SS2 with a booster
think New york to Tokyo in under an hour

BWB will replace the 747 at some point down the road
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Old Oct 07, 2012, 10:26 PM
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I doubt that. Loading/ unloading cargo or people quickly is a problem with that design.
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 04:48 AM
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Wow, will the boeing BWB really have external linkages for control surfaces? LOL
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 05:12 AM
Wake up, feel pulse, be happy!
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I'm sure they'll use high-quality NASA-tested fuel tubing for clevis retainers
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 06:20 AM
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Wow, will the boeing BWB really have external linkages for control surfaces? LOL
NASA goes all out on its models
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 07:48 PM
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Flying wings will always be the black eye of RC.
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 07:55 PM
Punch it, Chewie.
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I think you're focusing entirely too much on the negatives.
Progress never gets made without an open mind. (does the name Galileo ring any bells?)
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 07:58 PM
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I'm with you tic . Wings are the nitro monster truck of the hobby. I would like to see the AMA ban them.
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Old Oct 08, 2012, 08:05 PM
Punch it, Chewie.
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I dont own any planes with motors on the front , when you put a motor on the front any moron can fly them.
They dont need any fine tuning to fly .
Any cheap china mfg can draw them up and sell them .
If you want the feeling of being with the masses a tractor plane is great .
Its kinda liked be pulled around like your in a wagon to site see.
If you want a rush and actually fly a plane then a fine tuned Ritewing or killer helli will do the trick , these actually take some skill.
Now I'm all for flying wings, but I have never noticed a difficulty difference between pusher and tractor. Am I flying the wrong stuff to notice or what...


Oh, and please note my new picture (muahaha), my wing (left) and one of the senior members of my field (right) doing pylon. Hats off to my wingman for such an amazing picture (To this day I have no idea how he got that one so perfectly)
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