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Old Sep 19, 2012, 04:41 PM
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Seems like discrimination to me. I'm not sure what difference the size of the plane makes to a given club, or it's power source, I think a flying club should be open to anyone who has a model to fly. .
The difference is that a lot of clubs have contracts with the site owners or municipalities that require a minimum insurance requirement that is not met by the Park Pilot program. That's why acceptance or non acceptance of Park Pilot membership was left to individual clubs.

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Old Sep 19, 2012, 05:45 PM
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There is no reason to join the AMA. If you are low on money, just forget about it all. If you want to fly at an AMA field, then sign up or write a seven digit number on your airplane.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 06:11 AM
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There is no reason to join the AMA. If you are low on money, just forget about it all. If you want to fly at an AMA field, then sign up or write a seven digit number on your airplane.
A. With the exception of Muncie IN there's no such thing as an AMA field.

2. What a bunch of There's a large benefit to modelers of all genres the one I value most is the fact that in today's world where we have the FAA, the FCC and Homeland Security scrutinizing our activities the AMA has been pro-active. What other modeling organization has a DC lobbyist?

Instead of reading this guys's if someone is actually interested in what the benefits of the AMA are you can see them here.

I have no problem with someone choosing not to join the AMA but if you do so don't disparage others from supporting the organization. If you would prefer the AMA members to fight for you to maintain your activities instead of joining, stand on the outside and we will carry your load.

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.....I have no problem with someone choosing not to join the AMA but if you do so don't disparage others from supporting the organization. If you would prefer the AMA members to fight for you to maintain your activities instead of joining, stand on the outside and we will carry your load........
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So, just to get this thread back on track, I was in no way questioning the worth or the 'raison d'Ítre' of the AMA as an organization - only the (I guess) validity of the Park Pilot program. I understand why the AMA exists and it's usefulness. What I don't understand is the purpose of the Park Pilot program, and if it has any real worth.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 05:40 PM
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So, just to get this thread back on track, I was in no way questioning the worth or the 'raison d'Ítre' of the AMA as an organization - only the (I guess) validity of the Park Pilot program. I understand why the AMA exists and it's usefulness. What I don't understand is the purpose of the Park Pilot program, and if it has any real worth.
I say get the open membership so you can fly anything almost anywhere, then pay 10 extra dollars and receive Park Pilot magazine if your interested in electrics. That way you get both magazines and your covered no matter what. The AMA is awesome. Thank goodness we have them to represent us.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 05:49 PM
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The difference is that a lot of clubs have contracts with the site owners or municipalities that require a minimum insurance requirement that is not met by the Park Pilot program. That's why acceptance or non acceptance of Park Pilot membership was left to individual clubs.

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+1 - we have no choice. Our lease REQUIRES full AMA. We have no choice and the Army Corps require that as a condition of use. So it is not discrimination at all, Matiac.

AMA was trying to do something to address the large numbers of park fliers and give them some benefit of joining.

Certainly does not hurt anyone to have that option.
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Absolutely not, but that is a discussion for a different forum.
I'm with you on this. I want nothing to do with the NRA.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 07:19 PM
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The choice of what can or cannot be flown at a chartered club field is entirely up to the individuals that formed the club--found the land that the field occupies--and spent the money to develop the field.
If that club decides that their interests lie in Giant Scale then that is what they allow at the field. The same holds true for any other club interest.
You wouldn't want a gas/glow plane at your electric only field.

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Okay. I'm sorry that people have confused this with a referendum on the the AMA. The point of this this thread was to discuss the merits of the Park Pilot program in and of itself. NOT the AMA as an entity and its usefulness. That point is conceded.

Not one of the proceeding comments has extolled the virtues and / or benefits of the Park Pilot program. Which, if you'll rcl

The fact that no compelling argument has been made for the PPP to exist leads me to believe that its entire existence is just a weak propaganda farce.

Until, of course I'm proven otherwise.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 10:25 PM
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I bought myself 65 acre's, sold all the tree's and bought my wife a top of the line John Deere zero turn so that I can takeoff and fly from any spot I wish. You ought to see her tan ...ZZ
That's the way to do it Dave! Although that probably costs more than $58 a year.

One day I am going to do the same thing but have a small shed there set up and keep stuff like props, batteries etc for my friends when they come to fly. And if I even make a few bucks then we'll have a BBQ at the end of the summer with the money.

That is my dream anyway.

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Old Sep 20, 2012, 10:31 PM
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This is simply an insurance decision. How much do you want to purchase? A true Park Flyer does not need the insurance that a 150cc gas flyer does....has nothing to do with dedication to the hobby.

Some clubs promise their locality that their flyers are "fully insured" and this changes the question.

So your field needs to set rules to match their promise to the field owner. You have Park Permits and Full permits then this needs to be revealed.

The distinction between Park Flyer and full flyer has definately blurred in the past year with electrics capable of speeds of over 100mph but....they don't qualify for Park Permits.

Local clubs need to crack down on this before something nasty happens at your field
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