I don't know the exact dimension but length shouldn't be factor as it is almost three times the length of a factory Hyperion 240 battery and the pack sticks width wise but it can be widened like Joel has talked about.

Joel - Was there more discharge using one prop versus the other? I will probably pick up the 5030's as they are cheaper and available here locally. So those inadvertent prop strikes can easily be taken care.of!

A couple other observations on this one:

1) If you have the Mig or the new Spitfire, you may have noticed that the new bricks seem to have trouble picking up signal when plugging in the battery. My mig often takes 2 or 3 attempts to bind when I switch batteries. THE SBACH DOES NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE (or at least mine doesn't). Not sure why, but this little annoyance is not an issue with the 3D.

2) Was having a hard time getting a consistent landing yesterday and got some advice on coming in tail wheel first and trusting AS3X to avoid the tip stall. That was definitely the ticket. A traditional landing style kpet resulting in prop strikes (and a split blade ;() Definitely something to get used to!

I got some 5043's on hand as well to test out. Your prop tests show that this 2500 motor might just be a different animal!

Originally Posted by whichwaysup

A couple other observations on this one:

1) If you have the Mig or the new Spitfire, you may have noticed that the new bricks seem to have trouble picking up signal when plugging in the battery. My mig often takes 2 or 3 attempts to bind when I switch batteries. THE SBACH DOES NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE (or at least mine doesn't). Not sure why, but this little annoyance is not an issue with the 3D.

!

This is the case with mine also. On my Cc I have to try several times to get it to recognize tx every time. This sbach has never missed it yet. Seems something is different for sure.

Originally Posted by medic45

I think the Beast is my next micro I love how it looks

The UMX Beast 3d is probably my favorite all around plane including my big ones. It doesn't do everything, but it does so much in almost no space that it's a delight!

Tom

Cool thanks for the info..

Originally Posted by whichwaysup

A couple other observations on this one:

1) If you have the Mig or the new Spitfire, you may have noticed that the new bricks seem to have trouble picking up signal when plugging in the battery. My mig often takes 2 or 3 attempts to bind when I switch batteries. THE SBACH DOES NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE (or at least mine doesn't). Not sure why, but this little annoyance is not an issue with the 3D.

2) Was having a hard time getting a consistent landing yesterday and got some advice on coming in tail wheel first and trusting AS3X to avoid the tip stall. That was definitely the ticket. A traditional landing style kpet resulting in prop strikes (and a split blade ;() Definitely something to get used to!

I'll be maidening mine very shortly, perfect day for it, no wind, can't wait to play touch the tail!

Tom

Man, you want to see a great video of how to land an AS3X sbach? Check out UNGN's video:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=5440

Originally Posted by jabsten

I got mine in today. Too bad the wind is 20 plus. I am pretty much done rebuilding my as3x sbach v1 with gee bee brick. Now I have 3 Can't wait to fly this one with TP 325 I will also try the new 400 35C hyperion packs I got. They are awesome on the blade 130x. Extended performance to the end.

J

All of us Sbach conversion owners are waiting for the report on converted compared to new Sbach. I'll be looking for yours, especially as mine has GeeBee guts. Thank you.
MIke

Originally Posted by whichwaysup

A couple other observations on this one:

1) If you have the Mig or the new Spitfire, you may have noticed that the new bricks seem to have trouble picking up signal when plugging in the battery. My mig often takes 2 or 3 attempts to bind when I switch batteries. THE SBACH DOES NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE (or at least mine doesn't). Not sure why, but this little annoyance is not an issue with the 3D.

2) Was having a hard time getting a consistent landing yesterday and got some advice on coming in tail wheel first and trusting AS3X to avoid the tip stall. That was definitely the ticket. A traditional landing style kpet resulting in prop strikes (and a split blade ;() Definitely something to get used to!

#1--I had that EXACT SAME ISSUE ON MY MIG! HH is sending a new one since the elevator stopped working after only a dozen flts. Thanks for the note!
#2--Thanks for the tip! I should rec'v my SBACH in another week (APO address) and don't have an LHS down the street (or anywhere in country for that matter), so hopefully no prop strikes...but what is the current consensus on best replacement prop?

Originally Posted by kalmon

No need, The Gee Bee uses the same config as the B3D so just drop it in and go!
make sure you place it correctly (aft of the Normal Sbach RX location) so the CG is right.



Yep almost as much power, however the characteristics are different. The 3000kv and 5030 is more responsive having quicker acceleration and holds power/speed better in high G turns and verticals.
The 2300+5043 has a higher top speed but bleeds speed in high G.
Vertical is unlimited on both with a nod to the 3000 for the instant punch acceleration out of a hover. However both do accelerate on te way up to a dot.

I fly in a very tight space so I prefer the 3000kv. If I had a 600ft+ area I'd probably use the 2300+5043 for the top speed increase. Just make the turns more sweeping and manage the energy.

-Brian

Good observation.. the 3000kv combo gives more thrust, around 10-15 grams more. That is what counts for 3D.

Originally Posted by jpt1205

#1--I had that EXACT SAME ISSUE ON MY MIG! HH is sending a new one since the elevator stopped working after only a dozen flts. Thanks for the note!
#2--Thanks for the tip! I should rec'v my SBACH in another week (APO address) and don't have an LHS down the street (or anywhere in country for that matter), so hopefully no prop strikes...but what is the current consensus on best replacement prop?

Jury is still out on replacement prop. turboparker seems to like the stock so far otherwise the GWS 5030 might also be it. Props are cheap, why not get both? Good luck on your new Sbach and good flights.
MIke

Well, a little advice from folks on the forum and viola! Decent, consistent landings!

Had her out today in calmer conditions and shes' even more fun. Definitely finding that I have to keep pushing the nose down when coming in for landing, which, against all odds, would indicate that she's tail heavy. Going to play around with the CG a bit and see if I can correct this.

Split my prop and broke a wheel pant because I didn't keep the nose down and/or the throttle up on one of the landings - it's an awful noise when that prop hits the ground.

Sbach 3D landing practice (4 min 57 sec)

hi all....this thread runs very quickly

-- do you prefer the GWS5030 or GWS5043 ?....it seems the stock prop is better than the GWS5030...just wondering.

Originally Posted by whichwaysup

Well, a little advice from folks on the forum and viola! Decent, consistent landings!

Had her out today in calmer conditions and shes' even more fun. Definitely finding that I have to keep pushing the nose down when coming in for landing, which, against all odds, would indicate that she's tail heavy. Going to play around with the CG a bit and see if I can correct this. Split my prop and broke a wheel pant because I didn't keep the nose down and/or the throttle up on one of the landings - it's an awful noise when that prop hits the ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKsXr...ature=youtu.be

That awful noise, like a squeal? That's what made me learn to land the Sbach correctly. I read up like you did and went out one calm morning and flew a whole battery with low passes, touch and go's and landings. That did the trick. I was trying to land the Sbach (and my Beast) like I learned to land the T-28. Come in low and straight and cut the throttle. I kept "plop landing" with the squeal or nose over until I learned to come in under power.
Mike