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Old Feb 15, 2013, 03:29 PM
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Is the mild kit enough to prevent bogging? At first people seemed to praise the mild kit, but lately I've seen more complaints that it is no more powerful than stock motor and the wild kit is the way to go.

I think I'm going to do one or the other, tried to do flips outside yesterday and way too much motor bogging on recovery. Course the temps were in the 40s (which I'm sure hurt battery performance) and I'm not sure I'll ever have good "collective management" as they say.
I have used both the wild and the mild kit. Your perception of the mild kit will depend on what you're transitioning from. I went from stock to the wild kit and then to the mild kit. Going from the wild kit (which is a tremendous improvement over stock) to the mild kit was disappointing - didn't seem that much better than stock, even though it probably is better. I'm sure my perception would have been different had I gone to the mild kit from stock. Given there's no significant price difference between the two and I like to fly outside where it's windy most of the time, the wild kit is more preferable. When I'm inside, I use an Idle Up mode 1 that is set up to be more like the mild kit - get the best of both worlds that way.

I'm also fairly new to CP helis and my collective management skills suck - I have bogged down the mild kit more than once (usually bailing out of a failed maneuver).
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 04:09 PM
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What is " IU1 mode" on the brushless kit?
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 04:12 PM
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What is " IU1 mode" on the brushless kit?
Sorry - Idle Up mode 1. I have 2 Idle Up modes set on my transmitter.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 05:44 PM
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Curious also as to what you had you IU modes set to in the mild kit there Jboy. Did you use a set gov or tx gov? What TC did you use? I assumed the mild kit would be great, purely because the extra headroom should allow much less bogging, HS of 4400 is somewhere between 70 & 80% flat TC which should give plenty of headroom yeah?
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 06:05 PM
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Curious also as to what you had you IU modes set to in the mild kit there Jboy. Did you use a set gov or tx gov? What TC did you use? I assumed the mild kit would be great, purely because the extra headroom should allow much less bogging, HS of 4400 is somewhere between 70 & 80% flat TC which should give plenty of headroom yeah?
When I had the mild kit on, it wasn't governed - just running a flat throttle curve at 100%.

I don't have my radio handy to tell you exactly the 2 IU settings I have for the wild kit (think IU1 was around 70% and IU2 at 85%). Plenty of headroom on both to avoid bogging.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 07:09 PM
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So are the new HH Eflite 150mah 35c batteries better with the stock brushed motor on this one or would they only make a difference in a brushless setup?

Or are they not worth the extra weight on the brushed can motor?

Also for $8.99 are the TP 25c 160mah Pro Lites the better option?

Thanks!
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 07:30 PM
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So are the new HH Eflite 150mah 35c batteries better with the stock brushed motor on this one or would they only make a difference in a brushless setup?

Or are they not worth the extra weight on the brushed can motor?

Also for $8.99 are the TP 25c 160mah Pro Lites the better option?

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They made a difference for me! I bought 5 of them, they are definitely an improvement over the stock 25c eflites and 150 25c venoms.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:07 PM
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The Hyp 160s also perform very well in this bird: http://www.allerc.com/hyperion-g3-cx...ct-p-5416.html

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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:09 PM
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Tutorial video needed

Is there a web site or link to a tutorial video that shows stick movement needed to perform maneuvers?
Like if I wanted to flip inverted and back to upright over and over, there would be a stick movement pattern.
I would like to see those patterns. Where can I?
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:31 PM
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Is there a web site or link to a tutorial video that shows stick movement needed to perform maneuvers?
Like if I wanted to flip inverted and back to upright over and over, there would be a stick movement pattern.
I would like to see those patterns. Where can I?
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http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=248369
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:43 PM
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My nano came with the 35c stock packs. I also purchased another 3. They seem alright, but the hyperion 160 has better punch.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 08:58 PM
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My nano came with the 35c stock packs. I also purchased another 3. They seem alright, but the hyperion 160 has better punch.
And the Hyps will still have that punch 200-300 cycles from now if properly cared for, while the Eflites will most likely start to lose power after only 20-30 cycles or so.

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Old Feb 15, 2013, 09:07 PM
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And the Hyps will still have that punch 200-300 cycles from now if properly cared for, while the Eflites will most likely start to lose power after only 20-30 cycles or so.

Joel
Yeah, my 2 stocks that came with it are noticeably poor, less punch and less flight time. but they are 3 motors old. (somewhere between 50-70 flights on each).

My hypes do seem to have lasted and still have good punch and times (probably similar flight count 50-70). no noticeable lag. Although I did get one that the cap came off, and the plugs don't seem to be as tight as the stock batteries on any of the 3 I have here. I haven't gotten any more purely because of that fact.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 11:22 PM
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Today was awesome, started flipping her over side to side as well as front to back. Practiced hovering for longer while inverted and started to learn that backwards is forwards and right is left Up is down! It is pretty cool to be able to actually do this with a heli! Impressed some of the guys who have only flown planes..
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Old Feb 16, 2013, 09:35 AM
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I flew a buddy's Nano and I think the main is going. I would be in idle up and I would go up and down like in a pitch pump, but slower. On the way down it would wobble back and fourth and I couldn't control it. I think the motor bogged and it wobbled. It wasn't until the headspeed slowly went back up that it stopped wobbling. Is the main dying?
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