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Old Oct 30, 2012, 05:10 PM
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Did you order a module for your 9x? I just flashed mine to er9x but I have no idea how to program my soon-to-arrive Nano with this new firmware. Do you have a model template you plan on using for the Nano?
Did you do the DSM2 mod? If not, you won't be able to bind to the Nano.

I am still tweaking my NCPX model, but would make it available if you wanna take a look at it.
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Old Oct 30, 2012, 06:47 PM
Mini CP - Nano CPX - Devo 6
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Did you do the DSM2 mod? If not, you won't be able to bind to the Nano.

I am still tweaking my NCPX model, but would make it available if you wanna take a look at it.
I would really appreciate that, I think your model settings would give me a base to work with since I have no clue how to program anything in er9x. I haven't done the DSM2 mod, however I did order the new DSMX module hobby king is selling. Should arrive in a few weeks along with my Nano from MM, so I'll try tinkering with the settings then and see if I can get it flying smoothly.
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Old Oct 30, 2012, 09:37 PM
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Let me rephrase my comment. I think the BL kit IS worth it, for exactly the reasons stated. I don't have the time for all those mods. And one of the reasons I bought the nano was to just fly a FBL CP heli that works, not to add another model to tinker with, I have enough of those. But my intention was that the casual flyer like myself may not benefit from the mod, and it's easy and cheap enough to replace the brushed motor, I only fly it maybe a few times a week, have a lot of other RC models to fly. I think I have one of those HK 12000Kv motors lying around I bought for a brushless Losi Micro DT I never got around to.
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Old Oct 30, 2012, 09:45 PM
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If is was for a Losi my bet is what you have is an inrunner..not the correct motor. Also a lot heavier than the outrunner that was being referred to.

I think you should keep it brushed and buy my brushed motors
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Old Oct 30, 2012, 10:31 PM
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Great advice! I already have a new one I bought from a hobby shop when I was traveling. I have no good LHS near my house, not that has what I like anyway, no insult meant to the fine shops in my city. So when I go visit and browse I am compelled to buy SOMETHING, but I already have so much of everything, I have my own hobby shop, kind of a fulfillment of a childhood fantasy. So I ended up with a spare nano motor. It sits on a hook on my pegboard wall with the other blade items I have, ready to be plucked at will. I love it.
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Old Oct 30, 2012, 11:28 PM
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One of my blade grips came flying off. I actualy found all the pieces! My question is when I tighten the nut on the feathering spindle, how tight do I want it? Is there supposed to be a certain amount of play? Or just tighten it up?
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Old Oct 30, 2012, 11:31 PM
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You want to tighten it until they start to get notchy then back off until they move freely without any binding
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Old Oct 30, 2012, 11:37 PM
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Thank you. I didnt think that I should torque it down, but wasn't sure just how to put it back together. Thanks again for the help.
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Old Oct 31, 2012, 01:08 AM
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I'm having issues rebinding the stock radio to my Nano after flying with my DX6i
I do also with a DX7, following the manuals instructions. I have to re-bind like 40-70% of the time, depending on what day it is. Sorry, I haven't been keeping count, it is kind of erratic.
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Old Oct 31, 2012, 01:36 AM
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I have tried many of the suggestions given. And what most of them did was to show me that it is pilot error and inexperience that is causing 99% of my problems. I really am starting to see how hard it is to learn on a CP heli. Also I should be doing this in a gymnasium or outside in no wind. In my basement or garage, while plenty of room for a good pilot, is way to small to learn in. I took it outside once, it was too windy but............. I had my longest flight yet. Unfortunately it "landed" 200 feet away. But It was a fun flight.
I am hoping I have more sucess with the MCX2 I am getting Friday. I am also hoping that learning on that heli will make this one (the Nano) a little friendlier to learn.
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Old Oct 31, 2012, 04:16 AM
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I use to post this for newbies having problems learning to fly mSR or CB100:

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I've posted this so many times already, what's one more time:

I recommend this training program:
  1. Hover in one spot
    1. Nose away
    2. Nose right
    3. Nose Left
    4. Nose towards
  2. Box Circuits
    1. CW Nose away
    2. CCW Nose away
    3. CW Nose right
    4. CCW Nose right
    5. CW Nose Left
    6. CCW Nose Left
    7. CW Nose towards
    8. CCW Nose towards
  3. Circles
    1. CW Follow the Nose
    2. CCW Follow the Nose
    3. CW Follow the Tail
    4. CCW Follow the Tail
  4. Flat Pie Plates?
    1. CW Box, Nose Center
    2. CCW Box, Nose Center
    3. CW Box, Nose Outer
    4. CCW Box, Nose Outer
    5. CW Circle, Nose Center
    6. CCW Circle, Nose Center
    7. CW Circle, Nose Outer
    8. CCW Circle, Nose Outer

Unless I had a lot of money to "burn", and a lot of "free" repair down time, I wouldn't try to fly fast without first mastering it SLOW, and I wouldn't try to fly slow, without first mastering stationary.

I think progressing using a well structured training program, may be cheaper, faster, and better than a wild anything goes approach.

I've been flying for about 2 years now, have recently started practicing flying inverted on the simulator, and I'm still using the above training procedure again, but this time it is with the heli "upside" down.

I think if a person masters taking slow baby steps, before taking fast big steps, then I wouldn't expect having to do extensive/expensive repairs.

Best wishes

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Old Oct 31, 2012, 07:19 AM
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I do also with a DX7, following the manuals instructions. I have to re-bind like 40-70% of the time, depending on what day it is. Sorry, I haven't been keeping count, it is kind of erratic.
I've found if I just disconnect the batt again, wait 10 sec, Reconnect Batt, it usually Binds on the second or third try. My mCPX did the same thing....
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Old Oct 31, 2012, 08:49 AM
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... I really am starting to see how hard it is to learn on a CP heli. ...
I am hoping I have more sucess with the MCX2 I am getting Friday. I am also hoping that learning on that heli will make this one (the Nano) a little friendlier to learn.
You don't learn much on a coaxial like the mcx2 that translates to CP flying except perhaps orientations. I would recommend an mSRx rather as a trainer. Tough, forgiving and you learn how to fly a single rotor heli properly, especially if you set up the throttle hold switch. A garage should be big enough for an mSRx.

The program i812 posted seems like a decent training program. I tried to follow RADD's flight training program, but some of it you just can't do with a submicro heli (the ground traing part).
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Old Oct 31, 2012, 09:29 AM
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I know the nano is difficult but when you configure the controller (dx6i in my case) so for example set rudder, ail and elev to 60% or lower so you can start learning how it respons.

Train with that and then gradually increase the axis to 100%.

Isn't that also a good way to learn to fly the nano because otherwise it just moves frantically if you are moving away from a mcx2 and you're not used to a CP
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Old Oct 31, 2012, 09:42 AM
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I would love to have a MSRx. I almost did get that one first, should have. I will more than likely get one very soon. Right now, it's maybe every 5th try I can get into a hover, keeping it there is another story. I did notice that my motor keeps slipping up, and the main gear slipped down, creating alot of play between the gear and bearing. I "fixed" these issues with a tiny dot of CA.
When the blades get banged up, does this contribute to unsteady flight? Can say, sandpaper be used to smooth out the dings?
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